PAC Biting more than he can chew?

[fanjohn]

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is an interesting fight for me. Mayweather might school Pacquiao if they fight but you can't really count Pacquiao out since this guy is very unpredictable and doing the unthinkable in his last few fights.

Jose Luis Castillo who fought Mayweather twice and sparred with Pacquiao said that Pacquiao is faster and stronger than Mayweather.

Castillo was very good against Mayweather no doubt, but that isn't the man who sparred with Pac! Castillo is shot and has been since his brawls with Corrales. And he has been employed by Pac so he is never going to say Pac has no chance with Mayweather is he?

Also even if he is faster than Floyd, he is not as good a boxer and that will be the telling factor should they meet (i really hope they do). Can't wait to hear what PBF has to say about the fight!

Pacquiao win fights mainly due to his superior speed and if he's faster than Mayweather then it's already a plus for him. I think Pacquiao is also stronger. Mayweather has the edge in boxing skills and natural talent.

Dela Hoya said that Pacquiao has the quickest set of hands among the boxers he has fought. Hatton said that Pacquiao is the hardest puncher he has fought so far.

[rjj tszyu]

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is an interesting fight for me. Mayweather might school Pacquiao if they fight but you can't really count Pacquiao out since this guy is very unpredictable and doing the unthinkable in his last few fights.

Jose Luis Castillo who fought Mayweather twice and sparred with Pacquiao said that Pacquiao is faster and stronger than Mayweather.

Castillo was very good against Mayweather no doubt, but that isn't the man who sparred with Pac! Castillo is shot and has been since his brawls with Corrales. And he has been employed by Pac so he is never going to say Pac has no chance with Mayweather is he?

Also even if he is faster than Floyd, he is not as good a boxer and that will be the telling factor should they meet (i really hope they do). Can't wait to hear what PBF has to say about the fight!

Pacquiao win fights mainly due to his superior speed and if he's faster than Mayweather then it's already a plus for him. I think Pacquiao is also stronger. Mayweather has the edge in boxing skills and natural talent.

Dela Hoya said that Pacquiao has the quickest set of hands among the boxers he has fought. Hatton said that Pacquiao is the hardest puncher he has fought so far.

Pacquiao has faster hands than SRR but I don't think he'd beat him either! I'm not even that sure he is faster than Floyd, but it's close and i'll give him that. As for Hatton's hardest punching opponent?? I doubt it, Tszyu hit very very hard but Hatton had a lot better chin in those days. IMO Hatton lost a lot when Mayweather KO'd him.

"PAC Biting more than he can chew?" 'Heard that many times before, and it's kinda getting old.

Pac KOed Hoya, Hatton, and now Cotto. Mayweather is not that special.

Mayweather is not that special?? ?? WTF?? Did you see the demolition job he did on Marquez who caused Pac a shit load of problems? Mayweather is up there with the likes of Leonard, Robinson and Jones Jnr and IMO although great Pac isn't quite on that level. Yes he has had some very good wins recently since moving up to the higher weights but everyone of those opponents have had question marks over them. Oscar was ageing and forced to drain to a weight he hadn't been down to for a long time, Hatton had not long since been KO'd by Floyd and Cotto hasn't looked as good as he once did since the Margarito fight.

[dcR-Reckless]

[QUOTE=rjj tszyu;811049][QUOTE=fanjohn;810942]

Mayweather is not that special?? ?? WTF?? Did you see the demolition job he did on Marquez who caused Pac a shit load of problems? Mayweather is up there with the likes of Leonard, Robinson and Jones Jnr and IMO although great Pac isn't quite on that level. Yes he has had some very good wins recently since moving up to the higher weights but everyone of those opponents have had question marks over them. Oscar was ageing and forced to drain to a weight he hadn't been down to for a long time, Hatton had not long since been KO'd by Floyd and Cotto hasn't looked as good as he once did since the Margarito fight.

You smoking some good shiet.

[0james0]

2010 has 2 potential mega fights, Manny vs PBF and a Klitchsco vs Haye.

I'm just excited to see what could be potential super fights, talked about for years to come

[BigLuke]

2010 has 2 potential mega fights, Manny vs PBF and a Klitchsco vs Haye.

I'm just excited to see what could be potential super fights, talked about for years to come

Thats quite a stretch to say that Klitchsco vs Haye is a mega fight...

[0james0]

2010 has 2 potential mega fights, Manny vs PBF and a Klitchsco vs Haye.

I'm just excited to see what could be potential super fights, talked about for years to come

Thats quite a stretch to say that Klitchsco vs Haye is a mega fight...

It is in Europe, where most the heavyweight attention is coming from.

People want to see the Klitscho's dethroned. Why do you think Haye got such a unanimous points win in that fight when it was very close to call. People are bored of the same people, with their boring manner and boring style.

Haye vs Klitchsco is being talked about as a 90,000 sell out crowd at Wembley, makes it a super fight for me (should that happen)

[Rantcatrat]

Wouldn't it be crazy if Pacquiao fought and beat Foreman at 154 and won a belt in an 8th weight class? I doubt Pacquiao could beat Martinez/Williams/Dzinzurik/Spinks at 154, but he could beat Foreman and Foreman now has a belt. Just for historical reasons even though obviously the Mayweather fight is much bigger as is aMosley fight etc.

To Foreman's credit, he solidly beat Santos last night, which somewhat surprised me and it was a better fight than Chavez Jr's by far.

[Rantcatrat]

If he fights Mayweather it has to be at 147lbs and a 50/50 purse split and just get it on none of this 145lbs shit or i deserve 60/40 just get it on for the sport for the fans.

Mayweather signed up to fight Marquez at 145. If Floyd was willing to fight Marquez at 145, why not Pacquiao? I don't see why it matters if the weight is in that range. It would only be Manny's second fight at welterweight and not in a row either. Unlike Mayweather who fought Hatton (a career junior welterweight) at 147, Pac fought him at 140. ODLH was his first fight at welterweight. Don't forget too that less than two years ago, Manny was fighting at 130. All I'm saying is I don't think it matters at all if the fight with Floyd is at 145.

You seem caught up on the weight issue. Are you also really bitter at Paul Williams for forcing Sergio Martinez to come up to 160 rather than at Sergio's natural weight of 154 just for the weight advantage?

Pac is a great fighter course he is nobody can doubt that but i will say this Mayweather beat a bigger stronger Oscar De La Hoya who was coming off a good win vs Mayorga and was WBC 154lb champ and ranked number 1 in the world Pac beat a weight drained version who weighed inside the welterweight division for 1st time since 2001 he made Oscar retire on his stool after 8 rounds but what would Mayweather have done with this Oscar who could basically be hit at will. Mayweather beat Hatton up for 10 rounds then knocked him out lets not forget Floyd didn't even take Hatton serious he went on dancing with the stars Hatton was basically done after this fight look at the Lazcano fight. Don't get me wrong what Pac did to these 2 fighters was great im not denying that and then theirs Cotto now i thought Cotto would win this was a great win for Pac but was he done after the defeat against the Master of Plaster Margarito we don't know. The main fact is lets just get this fight on but if Pac starts all this it has to be at 145 or 143lbs or he want 60/40 split then he must not want the fight. When interviewed after the fight he never mentioned Mayweather and when interviewed by Kenny when asked about Mayweather he skated around it the sport needs this fight in the words of Mills Lane LETS GET IT ON!!

Mayweather should beat Pacquiao.

However, Manny's wins over Hatton and Cotto are better than anything Mayweather has done in a while.

Mayweather fought Hatton at 147, not at Hatton's natural weight class of 140. A big-time advantage for Mayweather. Pacquiao fought him in a weight class in which Hatton had never lost, and DESTROYED him. It looked like Hatton didn't belong in the same ring with Pacquiao. Mayweather's beating of Hatton versus Manny's isn't a contest. Hatton won rounds against Mayweather at Mayweather's weight class and Manny demolished Hatton at Hatton's weight class.

And Cotto just beat a tough top ten welterweight in Clottey after the Margarito fight. Cotto was still a tough, tough competitor coming into this one. I, for one, predicted Cotto would win. The Cotto that showed up last night is by far better than any welterweight Mayweather has ever faced (Gatti, Baldomir, Hatton at 147 etc.).

[Rantcatrat]

Realistically, where would Manny place among the all-time-greats if Manny beat Floyd?

[0james0]

Realistically, where would Manny place among the all-time-greats if Manny beat Floyd?

Without doubt he would be up there with the very best of them.

To beat a fighter who has gone that long and never lost would confirm what many are already speculating.

Would still prob need another super fight to confirm it 100%, Mosley or similar, or even another Marquez fight.

[fanjohn]

Pacquiao win fights mainly due to his superior speed and if he's faster than Mayweather then it's already a plus for him. I think Pacquiao is also stronger. Mayweather has the edge in boxing skills and natural talent.

Dela Hoya said that Pacquiao has the quickest set of hands among the boxers he has fought. Hatton said that Pacquiao is the hardest puncher he has fought so far.

Pacquiao has faster hands than SRR but I don't think he'd beat him either! I'm not even that sure he is faster than Floyd, but it's close and i'll give him that. As for Hatton's hardest punching opponent?? I doubt it, Tszyu hit very very hard but Hatton had a lot better chin in those days. IMO Hatton lost a lot when Mayweather KO'd him.

This is Hatton's exact words. "Pacquiao hardest puncher I faced"

[rjj tszyu]

Pacquiao win fights mainly due to his superior speed and if he's faster than Mayweather then it's already a plus for him. I think Pacquiao is also stronger. Mayweather has the edge in boxing skills and natural talent.

Dela Hoya said that Pacquiao has the quickest set of hands among the boxers he has fought. Hatton said that Pacquiao is the hardest puncher he has fought so far.

Pacquiao has faster hands than SRR but I don't think he'd beat him either! I'm not even that sure he is faster than Floyd, but it's close and i'll give him that. As for Hatton's hardest punching opponent?? I doubt it, Tszyu hit very very hard but Hatton had a lot better chin in those days. IMO Hatton lost a lot when Mayweather KO'd him.

This is Hatton's exact words. "Pacquiao hardest puncher I faced"

Hatton may have said that, I said Hatton didn't have the same punch resistance as he did when he fought Tszyu, so the punches against Pac hurt him more.