Just a thought about Cotto's career.

[Fenster]

How about Pavlik?

Pulls off upset win against Miranda, gets shot at lineal middleweight champ. Mashes up Taylor to become a "star" and P4P top 10 rated. Backs up win.

Starts BIG favourite over old Hopkins. Gets virtually humiliated.

Becomes a drunk.

[p4pking]

How about Pavlik?

Pulls off upset win against Miranda, gets shot at lineal middleweight champ. Mashes up Taylor to become a "star" and P4P top 10 rated. Backs up win.

Starts BIG favourite over old Hopkins. Gets virtually humiliated.

Becomes a drunk.

Wow, don't know how Pavlik slipped me, good one. He is different from Cotto though to me, in that we haven't actually watched him develop as a fighter really. He is what he is imo, and just had a couple of good opponents to showcase this. With Cotto, watching him against Corley and Torres you would never have thought that he'd be the fighter he was against Quintana only a year or so after, and go on to beat up Judah and Mosley. He actually became a much better fighter before it was beaten out of him. Pavlik might just have been a one trick pony that was exposed.

[Pugilistic]

I don't think Cotto is what he was before Margarito.

Margarito damaged his confidence.

Not taking anything away from Manny though, Cotto is still a very good fighter.

Pacquiao would of beat Cotto pre Margarito also.

Pacquiao's speed and workrate would have always been too much for Cotto.