How can some of you guys say Royce would never beat today's top competition? Someone said Royce wouldnt beat Ortiz If Royce made an in his prime Shamrock tap out, he'd eat Tito Ortiz in 2 minutes.

Couture is great, but on the ground, he's not Royce Gracie. This is a guy who made his UFC living fighting and beating guys much bigger than him. Remember Dan Severn? Remember Kimo?