Robin Reid V Joe Calzaghe

[Fenster]

Reid was offered the rematch but turned it down over money (what else).

He wanted £150,000, they offered £90,000. And that was that.

Think of how many sunbed sessions that would have been.

Robin Reid wasn't the greatest fighter of all time but he deserved more than £90,000

You can't say that without knowing what he/they were worth. Remember Calzaghe wasn't a "star" on mega money back then either.

For certain though I bet Reid wasn't making anywhere near 90k for defending his WBF title in sports centres and on Audley Harrisons undercards - which he did after Calzaghe.

[Darth_Simasu]

For me Calzaghe edged it by 2 rounds. Agreed, Reid landed the eye catching shots but he lost the rounds and you don't win a fight that way unless you're name is Carl Froch.

[ross]

I liked Reid because of his attitude, he came round when their wasnt really depth of class, Nardiello wasnt great, he lost to Malinga which is embarrasing as every other decent fighter beat him, benn lost the rematch but was a shell.

Reid had a good chin but even that deserted him by the time he fought Lacy, although the first knockdown came while Reid was turned away from Lacy and talking to the ref, after the ref shouted stop!! Lacy should have been disqualified.

Reid managed to drop Ottke on his ass and yet again his workrate let him down, he was treated unfairly in that fight, getting warnings for bugger all but still could have been busier in the last third of the fight, he could have gone on to be the only man to beat Ottke, as out of all the contraversial fights Ottke had this was the worste

I was gutted he fought Froch and gave him a name on his record, he could have had a decent warm up fight with Glenn Catley a few months before but Glenn pulled out of the eliminator so Robin got a staright shot, he needed some rounds, he just had nothing in that fight, Froch isnt that big a puncher at all

Years ago, I thought Calzaghe lost more than Reid wan and mostly because I couldnt stand Calzaghe and how much of a spoilt, arrogant prick he sounded but even Calzaghe wan me round by how after all those years after starting to look stale he totally pissed all over Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins and Jones, ok the last Two were past their best but their still having success after Joe beat em, so can be counted as good wins, dont forget, Joe wasnt young either or the fighter that could bang when he was younger.

Reid was a very likeable fighter and he was a decent scrapper but just didnt work hard enough in fights and I think he would have been up their amongst the best supermiddles but behind them, id have Calzaghe top then Eubank, Watson, Benn, Collins, Reid, thats all at their best

[JazMerkin]

I thought Calzaghe took it by winning the rounds, had it 7-5, but I think that the fact Reid appeared to win his rounds more decisively led people to think he had won it. A rematch would have been good though

[ross]

I think Reid deserved a rematch, him and Hopkins came the closest to beating Calzaghe but out of the Two I think Reid managed to boss Joe more than Bernard did, he deffinitly deserved a rematch and Warren missed a trick because there was the possibilty of recreating another Benn and Eubank rivalry, seeing as they genuinly didnt like each other either.

I think the rematch would have been even more fierce than the first.

Joe hates Robin because Robin stole his place in the Barcelona Olympics and only because the selecters didnt like Joes style, I think?

The only time iv ever heard Joe say anything complimentary about Robin was when he was due to fight Froch, he did say something along the lines of he has a chance becuase he has heavy hands

[Master]

Reid fought Joe during his boring and injury period which was why he came so close to beating him. It was the time he also fought Starie, in one of the most boring fights in history. After that Joe beat everyone easily from Omar Sheika on wards. I think he had an elbow injury and gave up playing golf that made the difference.

[Violent Demise]

Reid should of got the win

[gazreid]

1. my brother robin reid was'nt offered a rematch because calzaghe was running scared.
2. He beat ottke hands down and everybody in boxing agrees.
3. I was ringside at the calzaghe fight and most people said robin had won.
4. robin was messed around whilst in florida, laceys camp changed robins hotel and he had to train in the new hotels gym.
5. Robin was'nt in the right frame of mind personally due to problems privately at the malinga fight.
6. He outclassed warton so people need to know the facts before commenting.

[armyash]

1. my brother robin reid was'nt offered a rematch because calzaghe was running scared.
2. He beat ottke hands down and everybody in boxing agrees.
3. I was ringside at the calzaghe fight and most people said robin had won.
4. robin was messed around whilst in florida, laceys camp changed robins hotel and he had to train in the new hotels gym.
5. Robin was'nt in the right frame of mind personally due to problems privately at the malinga fight.
6. He outclassed warton so people need to know the facts before commenting.

The Ottke fight was disgusting! wasn't Reid warned for actually hitting at one point? lol very frustrating to watch.

I also read for the lacy fight Reid had to do pads by the pool of the hotel and wasn't given much help in finding somewhere decent to train. Shitty and unprofessional way to treat a fellow pro who travelled a long way.

I was a big fan of Reid i still have my old videos and fight dvds of him. Didn't get done many favours. Looking forward to prizefighter

[ross]

I also read for the lacy fight Reid had to do pads by the pool of the hotel and wasn't given much help in finding somewhere decent to train. Shitty and unprofessional way to treat a fellow pro who travelled a long way.

He also got twatted by a Lacy right hook while he was turned facing and talking to the ref during a break! Only to get a count for it, then in the same fight, Lacy goes down and the ref actually gives him a helping hand up!! That was also a cunt of a ref as well as that fat walrus in the Ottke fight

[armyash]

I also read for the lacy fight Reid had to do pads by the pool of the hotel and wasn't given much help in finding somewhere decent to train. Shitty and unprofessional way to treat a fellow pro who travelled a long way.

He also got twatted by a Lacy right hook while he was turned facing and talking to the ref during a break! Only to get a count for it, then in the same fight, Lacy goes down and the ref actually gives him a helping hand up!! That was also a cunt of a ref as well as that fat walrus in the Ottke fight

Forgot about that ref helping Lacy up! what a joke that was and i'll never forget the Ottke fight i couldn't believe what i was watching must be some of the worst reffing i ever seen. Refs can make mistakes and stop fights too early or too late, that can be down to human error under pressure, the ottke ref was just blatantly corrupt.


in the middle of writing this i thought i'd check the refs name - Roger Tilleman. Googled him and it brought up a lot of other forum results where people are slating him.

Turns out he was a judge in the Kessler v Froch fight and scored 117-111 in favour of kessler. not got a problem with Kessler getting the nod but it just goes to show how shit some people can be, it's not incompetence it's complete disregard for decent sportsmanship.

I'd love to be a ref/judge even if my favourite fighter was competing i'd score it fairly, if he lost i'd make sure my card showed that.

[erics44]

if anyone is interested i thought reid won

i wasnt upset that he didnt tho