Quote Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
How can some of you guys say Royce would never beat today's top competition? Someone said Royce wouldnt beat Ortiz If Royce made an in his prime Shamrock tap out, he'd eat Tito Ortiz in 2 minutes.

Couture is great, but on the ground, he's not Royce Gracie. This is a guy who made his UFC living fighting and beating guys much bigger than him. Remember Dan Severn? Remember Kimo?
Dan Severn isn't fit to tie Coutures laces he was purely a wrestler he'd never been taught any form of martial arts before joining the ufc

Kimo is not much better

these guys were one dimensional back then and had no technique to counter a good submission fighter

fuckoff anyone can submit Tito Ortiz in 2 mins your on crack mate
I don't even rate Tito but if a young tito with no experience can go 20 mins with a prime Frank Shamrock and only get finished cause he had'nt got the stamina to continue then how the fuck you can say anyone can submit him in 2 mins is beyond me

You need to watch the new breed of MMA fighters cause they train in more than one discipline and actually know how to defend submissions