Hidden Content There is no reward for second place
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Hidden Content There is no reward for second place
Obviously you cant compare the boxers of old to the current ones in terms of who would win a fight. Thats completely unfair to them. Practically every current NFL team (still not sold on the browns, loins lol) would beat the 85 bears or the 72 dolphins. But you can only be great relative to your time. No one dominated like those two teams did which is why they are considered to be two of the greatest of all time and not the 2009 steelers. And to whoever made the jesse owens comment, i dont know what track you've involved in but owens name is still revered. Hell, the reason why usain bolt is being talked so such levels is because hes destroying everyone LIKE jesse once did.
Manny is great but he's nowhere comparable to robinson. Robinson dominated many of the sports all time greats and was 40-0 before losing to another all time great in jake lamotta in a rematch who outweighed him by 16 pounds. and he still ended up beating him five of there six fights. Where as many of mannys big wins/fights have question marks surrounding them. The very arguable draw and narrow win against jmm, the old weight drain de la hoya, i wont even count ricky hatton lol and is cotto even the same fighter since margartio and without a real trainer.
We can put manny in the same sentence as robinson when over 60% of boxing analysist and reporters give him first place vote of greatest of all time, when practically every other LEGEND of the sport says your the greatest of all time like ali, lamotta, louis and leonard. or when he beats people of the same caliber of basilio, graziano, armstrong, etc.
Interesting how this topic could result in fixed positions that there will never be another Sugar Ray Robinson.
Of course there will never be another Sugar Ray.
Before Roberto Duran, I didn't think that any boxer could
equal Sugar Ray, Willie Pep and Henry Armstrong with
such greats as Barney Ross, Tony Canzoneri, Eder Jofre and
Jimmy Wilde dancing in the shadows.
Then came Roberto Duran and where do we place him ahead of
Armstong and Pep or behind them.
Now Pacquiao leaves us wondering where he will end-up on the
top ten list of all time. There is still time for him to complete
his journey before placing him ahead of Robinson, Armstrong,
Pep, Ross or Canzoneri, but at this stage of the journey he should
be placed in the top ten. However, his defeating the "Mayflower"
is no guarantee for a top five spot.
BALANCE, LEVERAGE, ACCURACY, SPEED and TIMING - Effective punching.
pacquiao ahead of srr? only in pactardos dreams. pacquiao has a very nice run but to even put him in the top 20 is even stretching it. let's see him dominate any division before we can start annointing him the greatest fighter of all-time.![]()
This is getting obscene. Look, I like Pac. I really do. But how can you be a fan when you get little chance to be affirmative towards him because of all this ridiculous stuff that must be refuted. I'm starting to feel sorry for Pac, who does everything right, because his fanatics keep throwing him under the bus.
Last edited by blegit; 11-27-2009 at 11:55 AM.
pacfans, just because pacquiao is arguably the best fighter of the decade, along with mayweather jr., hopkins and jones, doesn't mean you have to embarrass yourselves daily with your incredible rhetoric that pacquiao can be compared to SSR. he's had a good run but we don't know if he can beat mayweather jr.! let him beat mayweather then we can maybe classify him in the top 20ish. until then, quit embarrassing yourselves cause really you are doing more harm to pacquiao than you think.
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