Why Manny can't beat Floyd

[levi#1BoxingFan]

First of all I am as big of a Pacquiao supporter as anyone on here, people said I was a nuthugger, but now that Pacquiao has emphatically proven himself an ATG, at least top 15 ever. After watching both Mayweather-marquez and Pacquiao-Cotto live, I know that Manny won't beat Floyd.

1st. Manny showed something I didn't think he had, the ability to absorbs Cotto's power and stand there and trade, but that doesn't help him whatsoever against Mayweather. Mayweather doesn't need to hurt you to dominate you.

2nd: Mayweather comes forward against southpaws, and Manny needs space to get off his punches, but also he isn't nearly as effective going backwards. Mayweather will keep Manny on his heels and constantly land that right cross which Manny is wide open for all night long.

3rd: Speed. Now they are both the same speed, but Manny relies on being faster way more than Mayweather, thats why the faster the opponent's hands and/or feet are the harder of a time Manny has with them.

4th: Holes. I think Cotto did a good job early of showing that if you are brave enough Manny can be counter effectively because he leaves himself so wide open after he throws punches, I think Marquez demonstrated this far more accutely in their two fights. I think Judah gave Cotto less problems than Manny because Cotto can be hit, but you need to throw punches to hit somebody, and Judah doesn't throw enough punches. I think Judah in terms of landing solidly would give Mayweather more problems than Pacquiao because against Mayweather its about landing that tight left cross as a counter puncher that does the trick, and Manny doesn't have that punch. Manny whole style and stance doesn't allow for him to catch somebody coming in with the left cross effectively. He either flurries back or counters with the right hook which Floyd would easily dodge.

Conclusion: Mayweather will carefully back Pacquiao up, take a couple of rounds to get used to his speed and what he does(just like against Judah), then Floyd will pick Manny's porous defense apart. If guys like Marquez and Cotto can left cleanly on Manny then Mayweather will do it much easier than either of them, and nobody lands punches in bunches consistently against Floyd who also has a great chin if some punches get through.

First of all, Manny is a completley different fighter then when he fought Marquez! He filled into the weight change tremendously, he has the same blinding speed but more power not to mention his all around game has improved. (Two handed). Secondly, it seems awfully dangerous to put anything past Manny Pacquiao right now and thats including Floyd Mayweather! I can agree that Manny has never fought anyone as skilled as Mayweather, but Mayweather sure as heck has never faced an opponet like Pacquiao that has an all around game! Im not dissing Mayweathers opponets at all because he has beaten some great fighters, but who on his list can you think of that can even come close to what Pacquiao's doing right now? Pacquiao also has a HUGE heart to go along with all of his abilities and that many times can get you over any tricky obstacle that Floyd can throw at him just because of his sheer will to win!

[Taeth]

First of all I am as big of a Pacquiao supporter as anyone on here, people said I was a nuthugger, but now that Pacquiao has emphatically proven himself an ATG, at least top 15 ever. After watching both Mayweather-marquez and Pacquiao-Cotto live, I know that Manny won't beat Floyd.

1st. Manny showed something I didn't think he had, the ability to absorbs Cotto's power and stand there and trade, but that doesn't help him whatsoever against Mayweather. Mayweather doesn't need to hurt you to dominate you.

2nd: Mayweather comes forward against southpaws, and Manny needs space to get off his punches, but also he isn't nearly as effective going backwards. Mayweather will keep Manny on his heels and constantly land that right cross which Manny is wide open for all night long.

3rd: Speed. Now they are both the same speed, but Manny relies on being faster way more than Mayweather, thats why the faster the opponent's hands and/or feet are the harder of a time Manny has with them.

4th: Holes. I think Cotto did a good job early of showing that if you are brave enough Manny can be counter effectively because he leaves himself so wide open after he throws punches, I think Marquez demonstrated this far more accutely in their two fights. I think Judah gave Cotto less problems than Manny because Cotto can be hit, but you need to throw punches to hit somebody, and Judah doesn't throw enough punches. I think Judah in terms of landing solidly would give Mayweather more problems than Pacquiao because against Mayweather its about landing that tight left cross as a counter puncher that does the trick, and Manny doesn't have that punch. Manny whole style and stance doesn't allow for him to catch somebody coming in with the left cross effectively. He either flurries back or counters with the right hook which Floyd would easily dodge.

Conclusion: Mayweather will carefully back Pacquiao up, take a couple of rounds to get used to his speed and what he does(just like against Judah), then Floyd will pick Manny's porous defense apart. If guys like Marquez and Cotto can left cleanly on Manny then Mayweather will do it much easier than either of them, and nobody lands punches in bunches consistently against Floyd who also has a great chin if some punches get through.

First of all, Manny is a completley different fighter then when he fought Marquez! He filled into the weight change tremendously, he has the same blinding speed but more power not to mention his all around game has improved. (Two handed). Secondly, it seems awfully dangerous to put anything past Manny Pacquiao right now and thats including Floyd Mayweather! I can agree that Manny has never fought anyone as skilled as Mayweather, but Mayweather sure as heck has never faced an opponet like Pacquiao that has an all around game! Im not dissing Mayweathers opponets at all because he has beaten some great fighters, but who on his list can you think of that can even come close to what Pacquiao's doing right now? Pacquiao also has a HUGE heart to go along with all of his abilities and that many times can get you over any tricky obstacle that Floyd can throw at him just because of his sheer will to win!

Hopw has Pacquiao improved since Marquez II? Right after that fight he put on his best right hand performance against David Diaz. Mayweather has fougthen better all round fighters like Marquez and De La Hoya who can both brawl and box. Manny can box, but it still has a desperation factor to it that makes him far easier to hit.