I agree that both are good judges. One good thing about the judges around here (Bay Area/Sacramento) is they are pretty good in most cases. Marty Sammon is another one that is a really solid judge imo. But they go under the radar a bit because they're not from Nevada.

I agree that America is due to kick some ass and play dirty ourselves This stuff is so overblown though. Malignaggi cried and cried about the Texas judges but those guys gave Michael Katsidis a split decision in their fight. I think one of the Miranda-Ward judges (I think it was Marty Sammon actually ) had it 116-112 which was probably 2 or 3 rounds too many for Miranda.