Sorry for another Pacquiao thread, but this pissed me off

**michigan20** · 11-19-2009 06:05 PM

See roach is full of s*** for this catch weight crap. He stated that he wants pacman to weigt 145 pounds for the fight with mayweather. last time I checked that qualified him as a welterweight, meaning from 141-147 is legal weight limit. So why does everyone have to weight this stupid catch weight that Roach wants or suffer a fine? Especially since the people who hes imposed this on would all weight in at the 147 that they are legally allowed to and still be considered a "welterweight". Pacman isnt the first person in history to move up in weight divisons and not weight the limit of the weight and fight bigger people. Hell, rjj won the heavyweight world title at 193, he didnt try to make ruiz weight in at 200 or some bs. Mayweather gets crap for his duckin people and fighting little people like he should but pacman needs to get called out on this crap.

**0james0** · 11-19-2009 06:42 PM

I think Roach's main worry is that Mayweather will do what he did last time and delibratley come in over to gain an advantage.

They could set the weight at 144, but if Mayweather thinks "fuck it, my record is more important" he'll sacrafice maybe £3m of the £25m he'll prob make. Then make even more because he has won from being far heavier.

**Nameless** · 11-19-2009 06:54 PM

It is just negociation tools and to secure a way Floyd won't be able to get loose like what he did with JMM. As for the JMM thing, the message is very simple: We want Mayweather next and we aren't interested at fighting JMM right now". Just negociation tools and a way to cut the fat you don't want in your recipe in order to get the one you want served on a plate.

**Cressa121** · 11-19-2009 07:07 PM

If its a WW fight, then theres no reason why Pac's opponents should have to come in under the limit. I disagreed with Cotto's belt being on the line last week when he couldn't come in on the WW limit. The weight ranges from 141-147, so any fight for the title should allow for both fighters to weigh in at any weight in that range. As for the Marquez fight only being able to happen at 145, thats because Roach saw that Marquez doesn't carry the weight up well from the Mayweather fight. If Pac-Marquez III happned at LW then Marquez would cause Pac the same problems he did in their first two fights, and Roach would want a convincing win to prove his man's better. I think whoever Pac fights next theres going to be a huge issue over the weight and it'll end up being fought at a catchweight, which is wrong especially if the belt was on the line

**michigan20** · 11-20-2009 05:05 AM

I dont know how anyone can defend this catch weight crap. Its simple principle of the matter. If Freddie Roach was head coach of a NBA team and said hey im only gonna play 9 of my players so u can only play 9 of your guys everyone would say thats BS. So how is a catch weight for a welterweight fight any less retarded. Sugar ray leonard went up in weight to fight donnie lalonde and he knew he wouldnt make the weight limit but he didnt try to make him come in at a stupid catch weight.