Should we abolish the Royal family?

[Kirkland Laing]

The monarchy may not directly prevent anyone from getting on in the world, but in my view it represents the system that STILL does prevent people from progressing.
You are right that there is more opportunitys now than ever before. But there still isnt equality of opportunity, only less inequality. I simply believe that the removal of the monarchy will in time help to see the ingrained class system further eroded. Even if it would only make a tiny difference i think it would be worth it as they serve very little purpose. Furthermore, im morally opposed to the idea that anybody is deserving of anything by virtue of 'birth right'. So even if they only cost taxpayers 00000.1p a year for me that would be 00000.1p too much.

The royals actually save you money. If we did have a president it would allow another layer of corruption to the ones we have already. Germans for instance are currently being stung on gas, water, telecoms, credit cards, all directly because their prez lobbied for certain companies to get business without any effective competition. Same in France. And you can't find out about it because the media in France/Germany won't go anywhere near a president, he's just too powerful. French people didn't even know Mitterand (ex-prez) had two lovers and half a dozen kids while in office because the press didn't report it till after he was dead. There's no reason to boot them except spite and there are endless reasons to keep them.

My argument is not an economic one, it is based mainly upon the fact that the Royal family is an outdated institution with no real role to play in the system besides signing off a few goverment documents. Their positions are inherited and that is something that I firmly believe is wrong. I don't want to cut off their heads nor punish them, but I would like them to recieve public school education and to work their way up the ladder like the rest of us have to. I see no reason why they should be treated any different from the rest of the population.

You mention Germans being stung on things such as water, gas, credit cards and telecoms, but I look at the UK and see people being stung terribly too. I don't see what the Queen has to do with that though. And as for the French and German media having no balls. Well, I don't see the connection. We have a decent media overall, but I don't think it's down to having the Queen as head of state. The Royal family gets a hard time from them, but that's more the way we are culturally. Nobody is allowed to get off the hook for their private indiscretions.

Some fucker has to get treated different from the rest of us. It's only a question of inherited versus elected.

The monarchy works just fine in a whole bunch of modern countries, Holland, Denmark, Norway etc. It doesn't matter that one family inherit the position. Look at the alternative. You'd have President Grin with his gruesome moneygrabbing letterbox-mouthed wife sitting in Buckingham Palace. He's made millions on the back of bullshitting the country into an illegal oil war which he got caught red-handed making bs intelligence up for before the invasion. She's also made millions from the country. When Blair first took office the first big thing he did was introduce a ton of human rights legislation, which changed the face of the legal system. And despite having no more qualifications than any other barrister, who ended up becoming the head of the dominant London chambers of the dominant human rights law outfit, an endlessly lucrative position she can hold as long as she wants? So if you're talking parasitic motherfuckers, the royal family are vestal virgins compared to our elected represenatives.

Read this.

Sue Carroll on how money-grabbing schemer Cherie Blair is up to her old tricks again - mirror.co.uk

Imagine that piece of shit representing the country.

And then go one prez back, it would have been John Major. Another guy who enriched himself with an oil war. Just as Blair was Bush Junior's cabin boy, Major was Bush Senior's. After he left office he became a board member of the Carlyle Group, an organisation set up by Bush Senior to sell tons of advanced weaponary to oil-rich dictators whose bacon we saved, stuff their armies don't even have the capability to use, stuff that is rusting away unused inwarehouses. basically take billions in kickbacks from the Saudis and Kuwaitis for sorting Saddam out. And Major is part of that, because if there's one thing a huge/government level international arms/equity dealing firm needs, it's advice from a former Surrey bank manager. At least his wife would have been relatively presentable. A little horse-faced, though so are plenty royals, but at least she wouldn't be flogging twenty quid models of Buck House to the tourists like Cherie.


Without the Queen these motherfuckers would be inserting themselves into every major decision the country made and getting a big chunk of cash out of every one, to add to all the existing corrption down the food chain. The Queen has saved Brits billions over the years.