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    Default Re: Why was ElTerrible banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
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    I still don't know how running in boxing naturally makes you able to land punches.
    Who said that?

    Can we torture them publicly with some Fenster Facts?

    Stretch them out over the main board and dissect their lack of boxing knowledge piece by piece?
    Hattonhammer said running away and not engaging in fights naturally allows you to land more punches. I can't remember what thread.

    I said its easier to land counter effective punches if your the guy refusing to engage because you can just as easily jump onto the front foot as your going backwards.

    Lyle - tell me about it, im seriously beggining to think that merkin is in the league of nations.

    You cant say shit around that guy without being accused of being an intolerant bigot (suffice to say i already am one)
    Last edited by HattonTheHammer; 11-23-2009 at 07:28 AM.
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    Default Re: Why was ElTerrible banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    I said its easier to land counter effective punches if your the guy refusing to engage because you can just as easily jump onto the back foot as your going backwards.

    Lyle - tell me about it, im seriously beggining to think that merkin is in the league of nations.

    You cant say shit around that guy without being accused of being an intolerant bigot (suffice to say i already am one)

    I've never thought Lyle was a bigot, you on the other hand are. Lyle is a respected, intelligent poster. You're the successor to Trainer Monkey, Zelenoff & Kid Thunder.

    Btw, I assume you meant the United Nations, because the League of Nations were an early 20th century version who promoted racial & gender equality & were also anti-war. What terrible views those are to have

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Lyle, where exactly did he suggest you were a bigot? I read what he wrote & what you responded & all he was doing was complaining about your Haye obsession & how you said Ali was nothing special. If he did say or imply you were a bigot, could you please point it out to me?
    Well he specifically called me a hypocrite, but bigot is in the ballpark

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I've never thought Lyle was a bigot, you on the other hand are. Lyle is a respected, intelligent poster. You're the successor to Trainer Monkey, Zelenoff & Kid Thunder.

    Btw, I assume you meant the United Nations, because the League of Nations were an early 20th century version who promoted racial & gender equality & were also anti-war. What terrible views those are to have
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    I can understand where hattonthehammer is coming from re: fighting while going backwards. If you're a defensive fighter and a counter puncher you're naturally going to be more effective by baiting your opponent to throw more punches (which is why lots of counterpunchers leave their lead hand low, that invites more right crosses). The more your opponent chases you and the more punches they throw then the more opportunity you will have to counter.

    Is that roughly what you were trying to say?

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    Default Re: Why was ElTerrible banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I can understand where hattonthehammer is coming from re: fighting while going backwards. If you're a defensive fighter and a counter puncher you're naturally going to be more effective by baiting your opponent to throw more punches (which is why lots of counterpunchers leave their lead hand low, that invites more right crosses). The more your opponent chases you and the more punches they throw then the more opportunity you will have to counter.

    Is that roughly what you were trying to say?
    Bullshit it still doesn't naturally allow you to land more punches there is still execution involved. It still shows questionable knowledge on how to score fights if you discount landed punches on that basis. And btw there is a difference between potshotting and running.
    Last edited by amat; 11-21-2009 at 05:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Bullshit it still doesn't naturally allow you to land more punches there is still execution involved. It still shows questionable knowledge on how to score fights if you discount landed punches on that basis.
    I was just explaining how effective counterpunching works for a defensive fighter. There is more skill involved with being a counterpuncher than just being a slugger or a plain old boxer/puncher because if you mess up your defense you can get caught easier, if you counter too early you can get caught with the tail end of a combination and if you wait too long to counter you can get beaten with just the jab.

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    Default Re: Why was ElTerrible banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I can understand where hattonthehammer is coming from re: fighting while going backwards. If you're a defensive fighter and a counter puncher you're naturally going to be more effective by baiting your opponent to throw more punches (which is why lots of counterpunchers leave their lead hand low, that invites more right crosses). The more your opponent chases you and the more punches they throw then the more opportunity you will have to counter.

    Is that roughly what you were trying to say?
    Bullshit it still doesn't naturally allow you to land more punches there is still execution involved. It still shows questionable knowledge on how to score fights if you discount landed punches on that basis. And btw there is a difference between potshotting and running.
    The aggressor more often than not will have his chin down, hands up and will walk down his opponent. The counter puncher however due to his movement around the ring is able to throw the odd curve ball something the front footed guy simply cant do.

    Dirrell was able to land big on froch because carl basically had to spend the entire night chasing him down and in doing so andre was allowed to jump in with his lead every so often and follow it up with a right hand
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    Default Re: Why was ElTerrible banned?

    And the (one) way to beat a counterpuncher is to force him to lead off.

    Which means if you are naturally the aggressor holding off from throwing.

    What has any of this to do with ElT anyway

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    Default Re: Why was ElTerrible banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    I said its easier to land counter effective punches if your the guy refusing to engage because you can just as easily jump onto the back foot as your going backwards.

    Lyle - tell me about it, im seriously beggining to think that merkin is in the league of nations.

    You cant say shit around that guy without being accused of being an intolerant bigot (suffice to say i already am one)

    I've never thought Lyle was a bigot, you on the other hand are. Lyle is a respected, intelligent poster. You're the successor to Trainer Monkey, Zelenoff & Kid Thunder.

    Btw, I assume you meant the United Nations, because the League of Nations were an early 20th century version who promoted racial & gender equality & were also anti-war. What terrible views those are to have
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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    I said its easier to land counter effective punches if your the guy refusing to engage because you can just as easily jump onto the back foot as your going backwards.

    Lyle - tell me about it, im seriously beggining to think that merkin is in the league of nations.

    You cant say shit around that guy without being accused of being an intolerant bigot (suffice to say i already am one)

    I've never thought Lyle was a bigot, you on the other hand are. Lyle is a respected, intelligent poster. You're the successor to Trainer Monkey, Zelenoff & Kid Thunder.

    Btw, I assume you meant the United Nations, because the League of Nations were an early 20th century version who promoted racial & gender equality & were also anti-war. What terrible views those are to have
    Ouch &



    Byest.....brilliant.

    just got friend requested by merkin on facebook......


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    Default Re: Why was ElTerrible banned?

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post


    I've never thought Lyle was a bigot, you on the other hand are. Lyle is a respected, intelligent poster. You're the successor to Trainer Monkey, Zelenoff & Kid Thunder.

    Btw, I assume you meant the United Nations, because the League of Nations were an early 20th century version who promoted racial & gender equality & were also anti-war. What terrible views those are to have
    Ouch &



    Byest.....brilliant.

    just got friend requested by merkin on facebook......


    http://images.hollywood.com/cms/300x375/5241015.jpg
    Your usual level of wit I see. Which would of course work if I wrote in the manner of the stereotype of an African-American from the Deep South. Nice that you got your usual level of ignorant failure when putting forward a comeback.

    Ignoring the fact that I'd rather be facebook friends with Nick Griffin (& let's face it you probably already are), I also can't see myself adding someone who probably has a profile picture like this.





    I'm amazed that no one has made the Alf Garnett connection with you before - you really are the 21st century embodiment of him (although he was probably in better shape than you).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Ouch &



    Byest.....brilliant.

    just got friend requested by merkin on facebook......


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    Your usual level of wit I see. Which would of course work if I wrote in the manner of the stereotype of an African-American from the Deep South. Nice that you got your usual level of ignorant failure when putting forward a comeback.

    Ignoring the fact that I'd rather be facebook friends with Nick Griffin (& let's face it you probably already are), I also can't see myself adding someone who probably has a profile picture like this.





    I'm amazed that no one has made the Alf Garnett connection with you before - you really are the 21st century embodiment of him (although he was probably in better shape than you).


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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post


    just got friend requested by merkin on facebook......


    http://images.hollywood.com/cms/300x375/5241015.jpg
    Your usual level of wit I see. Which would of course work if I wrote in the manner of the stereotype of an African-American from the Deep South. Nice that you got your usual level of ignorant failure when putting forward a comeback.

    Ignoring the fact that I'd rather be facebook friends with Nick Griffin (& let's face it you probably already are), I also can't see myself adding someone who probably has a profile picture like this.





    I'm amazed that no one has made the Alf Garnett connection with you before - you really are the 21st century embodiment of him (although he was probably in better shape than you).


    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...thehammer.html

    I can't access that page, assuming it's in the 1000+ board.

    Although considering that's the first time you've managed to use the smiley on me you must be proud, even if it's about the most piss-poor use of it ever.

    Nice to see you pick up on that one bit of the post for something, rather than everything else. Comebacks getting a little harder to think of Hammer?

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