Forgot to add a Not Sure option for the poll.
Thats what I would vote.. Maybe a Mod could add it for me
Forgot to add a Not Sure option for the poll.
Thats what I would vote.. Maybe a Mod could add it for me
Kessler has not fought for ages and that must have hampered his performance. Since the defeat to Joe he has had legal issues which has kept him out of the ring. Andre did great but this has no reflection on Joe's victory.
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Well I think old Hopkins is still his biggest win.
The Hopkins that came in against Cals would have totally befuddled last nights Kessler. Which to be fair is exactly what Ward did. He may have gotten punished less.
Kessler just doesn't seem to adapt well which is a trait of most great fighters. But I think Joe's legacy is still solid if a little less impressive than it could have been if not for that long span in the middle of his career where he didn't get much done.
1. Calzaghe obviously ruined Kessler.
2. Eubank was a bigger win than Kessler.
3. Jesus might have given Calzaghe problems.. all the dirty guys did.![]()
Last edited by Fenster; 11-22-2009 at 02:52 PM.
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Fenster, add a "not sure" option to the poll, I don't know how to![]()
Or everyone could just say I'm not sure, I don't know.
Actually right now Kessler seems like the perfect candidate for a rematch given Joe's most recent competition.
Calzaghe fought the best when they were at their worst and that is his legacy defined.
Sure Joe is talented, but where was the challenge in his career? OLD Hopkins? OLD Roy Jones Jr? Please, the man fought 2 "tough" opponents in their primes Jeff Lacy and Mikkel Kessler and look what just happened to Mikkel. If Joe knows what's best for his career HE will take the place of Jermain Taylor in the Super 6 and win out.....if he could beat Abraham that is![]()
Calzaghe didn't clinch like an S.O.B. or literally use his head.
Credit to Ward, but I don't think he did it in as impressive a manner...
Here's four more Calzaghe haters certain to vote yes - ICB, VD, Dark Lord Al, Tysonbruno
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Well I voted no mainly cause I didn't think it was his biggest win. But of course it takes some of the luster off, I would still probably vote no as I'm not sure it technically rubbed shit all over it.
I think it does. You can look at it two different ways. Calzaghe had a close but clear win over Kessler , while a fighter with 20 wins and little big fight experience completely schooled Kessler. this basically embarasses Calzaghe's performance. However, on other hand, the Kessler that fought Calzaghe was very focused and looked in much better form than against Ward. Maybe it was an off night? I think it's a little of both- Kessler didn't look as good as when he fought Joe but now his victory doesn't look as great as it did. What if it was
Ward - Calzaghe (when he fought Kes)?
I still say it would be a close Calzaghe win.
I voted NO it doesn't.
I think it's more of a case that Ward is just that good.
Also Calzaghe was 35 years old... A 30 year old would of stopped him IMO.
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Hold on a minute wasn't i the one saying Mikkel Kessler was good, and Joe Calzaghe deserved credit for the win ? and didn't i give him credit for the close win over B-HOP, even though i did scored it for B-HOP ?
Im not a hater your just a Joe Calzaghe fan, and you disagree with any negative comments on Joe Calzaghe which is fine, but im not a hater.
But i have stated many times even though, Mikkel Kessler is good he is untested and he hadn't fully proven himself yet. Everyone kept saying Mikkel Kessler will beat this guy, and give this guy a tough fight ETC.
When truthfully he is untested at the elite level, the best fighter he beat was Anthony Mundine. Who is a good fighter but elite ? im not sure about that, and who else is there really Librado Andrade ? Markus Beyer ?
Theres no doubt Mikkel Kessler is a good fighter, and Joe Calzaghe does deserve credit for beating him. But as i've told you many times, he is still untested and no one truly knows how good he is.
And obviously any loss he has now will take some credit away from the win. Personally i didn't see the fight, i've been busy and haven't really been following boxing. And to be honest i only remembered it because it was in the paper today.
But i will get round to watching it at some point, and then i will say whether or not it rubs poo on Joe Calzaghe's win as JT put it, depending on how badly Mikkel Kessler was beat.
But as others have said Mikkel Kessler isn't good at adjusting, and he's not a good inside fighter which will always be a problem. But maybe it was a bad style match up, i don't really know but all i know is that Mikkel Kessler is still untested IMO.
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