Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
I dont see why there should be a bias for fighters from an older generation... IMO Manny Pacquiao is already better than the likes of Duran, Leonard, Whittaker etc... Is it so bad that i feel Floyd Mayweather is more accomplished than Hank Armstrong in every sense of the word?
I don't think he's really better than Pernell Whitaker, if Pernell Whitaker had not been robbed in his decision losses and draws coughs. He would be considered top 5 IMO, his only legit loss is too Felix Trinidad when he was way past his prime and having problems with drugs. Just take a look at this record for a second.

Azumah Nelson
Jose Luis Ramirez x2
Julio Cesar Chavez
Oscar De La Hoya
Greg Haugen
Wilfredo Rivera x2
Diosbelys Hurtado
Julio Cesar Vasquez
Buddy McGirt x2
Rafael Pineda
Freddie Pendleton
Anthony Jones
Policarpo Diaz
Jorge Paez

I think he won all of these fights, plus take into account his other achievements.

World titles.

Lightweight 10 title wins including the 1st Jose Luis Ramirez fight.
Jr Welterweight
Welterweight 10 title wins including Julio Cesar Chavez and ODLH.
Jr Middleweight

And for the record i think Pernell Whitaker, would of beaten Manny Pacquiao by atleast 8 rounds to 4.

Finally as for Roberto Duran his record speaks for itself.
It's hard to debate against that. There's a lot of facts there.

Except for the parts that are not fact of course.

No but seriously, i hear you. I dunno, i guess i picked on a bad bunch in Duran/ Whittaker/ Leonard (Although on a basis of head-to-head, i personally still think Manny AND Floyd would win 2 out of 3 of those fights).

And Henry Armstrong...? Yeah he was a great fighter, with a great engine and achieved a lot but again (for example) i just feel that both Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are almost a league above him.