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    Default Re: (prime) Tszyu v Pac @ 140lbs

    Real difficult fight to predict 10 out of 10 times. Tszyu has lots of pop and he knew he wasn't that fast so he worked on his timing counter punching and always tried to exploit his opponents mistakes. Theres no doubt, he'd have a plan against Manny.
    Manny on the other hand, has speed and power and better movement than Kostya and would probably be one of the few guys that wasn't dwarfed by Tszyu in terms of power. Hes also got a good trainer that would no doubt have a plan to exploit some mistakes by Tszyu.

    I'd be leaning towards Manny at this point, because i dont know if Tszyu had every faced that kind of offensive pressure and speed at the same time. Judah did well early in the first using his speed before Tszyu turned him into jelly. Hatton's pressure and swarming over a whole fight took its toll on Tszyu even if you discount the punches to the cup every few rounds. Manny seems to be able to take a decent shot and unless Tszyu drops Manny with one shot and lays him out, i would put my money on Freddie changing the plan and turning it into a whole different fight. I think the odds are with Manny, but if he deviated from the plan to test Tszyus power like he did with Cotto, it could've be the biggest mistake he ever made.
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    Default Re: (prime) Tszyu v Pac @ 140lbs

    i think this fight could go either way. kostya in his prime had great speed along with power so pacquiao would have had his hands full.

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    Default Re: (prime) Tszyu v Pac @ 140lbs

    This would be an amazing fight. I think at this point I would edge Pacquaio. Too quick for Tszyu.

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    Default Re: (prime) Tszyu v Pac @ 140lbs

    Tszyu would stop Manny Pac who would be eating big right hands all day. Kostya was a master boxer puncher and his timing was exceptional.
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    Default Re: (prime) Tszyu v Pac @ 140lbs

    one good fighter and one great fighter here IMO but an interesting styles clash and Tyszu's right hand would always be dangerous. Still would have to favor Manny. Too much speed, power, punch variety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tszyu would stop Manny Pac who would be eating big right hands all day. Kostya was a master boxer puncher and his timing was exceptional.

    And Tszyu will eat explosive left hand blow by Pacquiao. Oh let me clear. Left and Right COMBOS and BARRAGE!

    Pacquiao will beat Tszyu EASY. Pacquiao loves contact toe to toe. Nobody beats him if you trade punches.

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    Default Re: (prime) Tszyu v Pac @ 140lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Intazzz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tszyu would stop Manny Pac who would be eating big right hands all day. Kostya was a master boxer puncher and his timing was exceptional.

    And Tszyu will eat explosive left hand blow by Pacquiao. Oh let me clear. Left and Right COMBOS and BARRAGE!

    Pacquiao will beat Tszyu EASY. Pacquiao loves contact toe to toe. Nobody beats him if you trade punches.
    How early the fruit is falling this season Anyone who thinks Tszyu would be beaten easily by Pacquiao is misguided in their beliefs. If Marquez could land some solid shots and controversially lose two close fights with Pacquiao then Tszyu would do a lot better than he did. I still believe that Mayweather was darn lucky he didn't fight Tszyu. Did anyone ever notice that whenever Mayweather talked about Tszyu it was with reverence and not his usual dissing self?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Intazzz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tszyu would stop Manny Pac who would be eating big right hands all day. Kostya was a master boxer puncher and his timing was exceptional.

    And Tszyu will eat explosive left hand blow by Pacquiao. Oh let me clear. Left and Right COMBOS and BARRAGE!

    Pacquiao will beat Tszyu EASY. Pacquiao loves contact toe to toe. Nobody beats him if you trade punches.
    How early the fruit is falling this season Anyone who thinks Tszyu would be beaten easily by Pacquiao is misguided in their beliefs. If Marquez could land some solid shots and controversially lose two close fights with Pacquiao then Tszyu would do a lot better than he did. I still believe that Mayweather was darn lucky he didn't fight Tszyu. Did anyone ever notice that whenever Mayweather talked about Tszyu it was with reverence and not his usual dissing self?
    Yeah Floyd saw the risk in Tszyu and stayed away while Tszyu just fought the best he could...just like Pac is doing.

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    Default Re: (prime) Tszyu v Pac @ 140lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Intazzz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tszyu would stop Manny Pac who would be eating big right hands all day. Kostya was a master boxer puncher and his timing was exceptional.

    And Tszyu will eat explosive left hand blow by Pacquiao. Oh let me clear. Left and Right COMBOS and BARRAGE!

    Pacquiao will beat Tszyu EASY. Pacquiao loves contact toe to toe. Nobody beats him if you trade punches.
    How early the fruit is falling this season Anyone who thinks Tszyu would be beaten easily by Pacquiao is misguided in their beliefs. If Marquez could land some solid shots and controversially lose two close fights with Pacquiao then Tszyu would do a lot better than he did. I still believe that Mayweather was darn lucky he didn't fight Tszyu. Did anyone ever notice that whenever Mayweather talked about Tszyu it was with reverence and not his usual dissing self?
    Thats because if you talk trash about Tszyu he starts talking about how wonderful it is to have children and gives you speeches that make you think about life, and procedes to knock you out in about 3 rounds after that
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    Style wise this is a good match up for Kostya Tszyu, if you allowed Kostya Tszyu mid-distance range where he could time you with his power shots. And lets face it Kostya Tszyu had excellent timing, he was very effective.

    Fighters who smothered him, and didn't allow him room to get punching distance. He struggled against forgetting if he was past his prime or not right in this fight or that fight, he still had trouble with that type of opponent end of.

    Now Manny Pacquiao does fight at mid-distance, which would give Kostya Tyszu a chance. It really would depend on how well Manny Pacquiao could take the shots. But IMO its a close match up i think style wise its winnable for Kostya Tszyu, but it really could go either way.

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    Default Re: (prime) Tszyu v Pac @ 140lbs

    I'd pick Tszyu if we are talking absolute prime, he fought a lot of slick, fast boxers and timed them with the right everytime. It's easy to forget how fast Tszyu was in his younger days also check out the mid to late parts of this vid.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqLhPutAl6Y

    Manny is a freak though and looks terrific lately so who knows. Be a great fight though.

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    Default Re: (prime) Tszyu v Pac @ 140lbs

    Their might understandably be a rush to side with Manny,bit of what have you done for me lately.Can see his hand speed giving Tszyu problems but Kostya was a very solidly grounded fighter with deceptive reflex and awesome punch selection.

    Dont see the southpaw factor in play,Tzsyu faced many slick and capable leftys with good results though none as imposing and forward willing as Manny.The Phillips factor is always hung on Kostya and with cause.But it was totally different circumstances and styles.Manny had the speed,freshness,flat out skills but punch for punch (lead hand)and maybe......maybe chin...I dont see Manny along side Phillips at all.Phillips had a hellacious right hand.Phillips was basically being well overlooked off loss going into that fight and outside the ring drug-legal problems prior.Kostya may have been reading headlines prematurely with looming Oscar fight.For Manny he would be 100 % focused and geared up.Manny can be found coming in and Tszyu was very deceptive with that lean back and fire style but cannot get passed Pacs speed and huge confidence...dude savors a battle,lives for it.Kostya would give him all he could handle and can see him hurting Manny big time.I lean ever so slightly with a primed and lean Kostya but he gets smacked around early.

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