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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    First of all Mayweather Jr is 8 years younger than Tszyu, Hatton fought a Tszyu who had 3 rounds in 2 and a half years! Fighting in his own backyard, with a referee who inexplicably forgot the rules of boxing that night Hatton got his biggest win. I also think Hatton has not been the same since that fight, it took a lot out of him. Mayweather would beat Hatton in any fight anywhere, anytime. The Tszyu of 1999-2001 KO's Hatton as easily as Pacquiao did!

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Hatton was an animal that night yes, but the ref let him get away with a helluva lot 2!

    With the same type of officiating that night, I'd have to say Floyd wins by decision instead of the ko he scored when they fought.

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    First of all Mayweather Jr is 8 years younger than Tszyu, Hatton fought a Tszyu who had 3 rounds in 2 and a half years! Fighting in his own backyard, with a referee who inexplicably forgot the rules of boxing that night Hatton got his biggest win. I also think Hatton has not been the same since that fight, it took a lot out of him. Mayweather would beat Hatton in any fight anywhere, anytime. The Tszyu of 1999-2001 KO's Hatton as easily as Pacquiao did!
    I agree Kostya Tszyu wasn't at his best, but it is overrated how shot he was and at the time no one gave Ricky Hatton a chance.

    Kostya Tszyu was a top 5 P4P fighter, and he did recently stop Sharmba Mitchell, quicker than he had done previously.

    I just don't think Kostya Tszyu deals well with swarmers, because he needs room to get full power into his power punches, he hasn't really got a good inside game he does his best work at mid-range.

    As for the topic i think Ricky Hatton does a little better, but not by much. Floyd Mayweather Jr has a very good and underrated inside game, and swarmers have never bothered Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    i have got to admit, Mayweather is a better inside fighter that hatton, he proved that in their fight.
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Of course the fight would've been different.

    Ricky was much fresher then

    Billy Graham was also younger

    Joe Cortez wouldn't have been ref and so wouldn't have been biased to begin with and wouldn't have been even more biased after the national anthem got booed

    Mayweather back then was also a lot smaller

    It would have been a very different fight. Would Ricky have won? I dunno. Floyd is a phenominal athlete and pound for pound king.

    You can say Tszyu only had done 3 rounds in so many years but lets face it. Sharmba Mitchel was the top of the division then and Kostya rinsed him in 3. That shows the shape and condition Tszyu was in. He was far from passed it. He was looking to beat Rick easily and then move on to bigger things, retiring was not in his thoughts.

    To be honest I don't think Ricky has anything to be ashamed of for his performance in vegas.

    I think Ricks performance against Floyd will be put into context after Floyd fights Pac.
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Even with Mickey Vann refing Mayweather still beats him easily. In terms of boxing ability Hatton and Mayweather don't belong in the same postcode, never mind the same ring.

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Pbf Still Would Have Won, He Will Beat Hitman Any Day. Reason For Dat Is Ricky Hatton Charges You Majority Of Da Time. Thats Perfect For Floyd Due To The Fact That He Likes Out Boxing, And Making You Chase Him...

    Dnt Get Me Wrong I Like Hatton He Wus A Beast, And Prob Still Is Only Having His 2 Losses To The 2 Best Fighters Of All Time pbf and pacman.
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Quote Originally Posted by nyc champ View Post
    Pbf Still Would Have Won, He Will Beat Hitman Any Day. Reason For Dat Is Ricky Hatton Charges You Majority Of Da Time. Thats Perfect For Floyd Due To The Fact That He Likes Out Boxing, And Making You Chase Him...

    Dnt Get Me Wrong I Like Hatton He Wus A Beast, And Prob Still Is Only Having His 2 Losses To The 2 Best Fighters Of All Time.




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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    First of all Mayweather Jr is 8 years younger than Tszyu, Hatton fought a Tszyu who had 3 rounds in 2 and a half years! Fighting in his own backyard, with a referee who inexplicably forgot the rules of boxing that night Hatton got his biggest win. I also think Hatton has not been the same since that fight, it took a lot out of him. Mayweather would beat Hatton in any fight anywhere, anytime. The Tszyu of 1999-2001 KO's Hatton as easily as Pacquiao did!
    A referee that forgot the rules that night - hang on a minute are we talking about the night in Manchester or the night in Vegas, which ref Vann or Cortez ? Cortez without a doubt was the worst out of the two of them on the respective nights. I didnt realise the forearm smash and ducking below your opponents waistline was valid in Vegas, or did they just change the rules for that one fight ?
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Ricky would've banged into a different ring post on his way down.

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Ricky would've banged into a different ring post on his way down.
    never saw that comming!! fool
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    First of all Mayweather Jr is 8 years younger than Tszyu, Hatton fought a Tszyu who had 3 rounds in 2 and a half years! Fighting in his own backyard, with a referee who inexplicably forgot the rules of boxing that night Hatton got his biggest win. I also think Hatton has not been the same since that fight, it took a lot out of him. Mayweather would beat Hatton in any fight anywhere, anytime. The Tszyu of 1999-2001 KO's Hatton as easily as Pacquiao did!
    A referee that forgot the rules that night - hang on a minute are we talking about the night in Manchester or the night in Vegas, which ref Vann or Cortez ? Cortez without a doubt was the worst out of the two of them on the respective nights. I didnt realise the forearm smash and ducking below your opponents waistline was valid in Vegas, or did they just change the rules for that one fight ?
    Clutching at straws more than Tszyu was his groin with that one! I refer to Whitaker V Rivera 1996, when Rivera lands his first low blow in round 6 referee Frank Santore has no hesitation in deducting a point, if Tszyu V Hatton was in Las Vegas then Hatton gets DQ'd. Mayweather completely outclassed Hatton in Vegas and not even that British referee could have saved him. I had it a shut out up until the KO.
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mattyhitman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    First of all Mayweather Jr is 8 years younger than Tszyu, Hatton fought a Tszyu who had 3 rounds in 2 and a half years! Fighting in his own backyard, with a referee who inexplicably forgot the rules of boxing that night Hatton got his biggest win. I also think Hatton has not been the same since that fight, it took a lot out of him. Mayweather would beat Hatton in any fight anywhere, anytime. The Tszyu of 1999-2001 KO's Hatton as easily as Pacquiao did!
    A referee that forgot the rules that night - hang on a minute are we talking about the night in Manchester or the night in Vegas, which ref Vann or Cortez ? Cortez without a doubt was the worst out of the two of them on the respective nights. I didnt realise the forearm smash and ducking below your opponents waistline was valid in Vegas, or did they just change the rules for that one fight ?
    Clutching at straws more than Tszyu was his groin with that one! I refer to Whitaker V Rivera 1996, when Rivera lands his first low blow in round 6 referee Frank Santore has no hesitation in deducting a point, if Tszyu V Hatton was in Las Vegas then Hatton gets DQ'd. Mayweather completely outclassed Hatton in Vegas and not even that British referee could have saved him. I had it a shut out up until the KO.
    Sorry to be pedenatic but how do you have it a shut out when Mayweather spent practically the entire 5th round on the ropes? ( iirc it was the 5th).
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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Floyd was more aggressive at 140 and would have pulled the trigger more often ending it earlier. Hatton closed the distance then exactly the same way he does now, by hopping in a straight line. against Pac/Mayweather who can take a short step back and nail him he gets battered every time. The Floyd Hatton fought was pretty hesitant and didn't take advantage of every opportunity as Pac did, the version that fought Gatti would've destroyed him.

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    Default Re: If it was Mayweather, not Tszyu in the ring that night in Manchester.....

    Referee -Ray Hatton

    3 Judges scoring the fight from Ringside:

    Carol Hatton
    Matthew Hatton
    Grandpa Hatton

    Venue - A park on Hattersley Council Estste, Hyde, Greater Manchester


    Result - still the same



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