Should Bush and Blair be tried for war crimes?

[Gandalf]

Good posts there Missy!

There is probably a wealth of material and sources to go on if it ever got to trial, they would be sent down for their duplicitous acts. It often seems to me that the big guys never get tried by the international courts though. It's always the leader of some obscure African country that nobody has ever heard of. A precedent really needs to be set showing that even the powerful and rich are not above the law and will eventually go down for their dastardly actions.

[Gandalf]

And who voted for the Queen? That's going to open a whole barrel of worms!

[Master]

Yes they killed that innocent head of state Saddam.

[ono]

It would be cool if the country could participate in an x factor like phone vote. Like a military based reality tv show with veteran war criminals trying one last time for that shot at stardom. Like i'm a war criminal get me out of here, except with camoflauge and guns. And Joe Bugner.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Bugner would be out. No one likes him do they?

[ono]

Bugner would be out. No one likes him do they?

No. Quite sad really. I'd be nagging the fuck out of him. He shared a ring with Ali.

It's a shame that none of the other contestants seem to like him much. Can't imagine the easily influenced general public liking him either.

Still if it came down to a vote off between him and Bin Laden, i reckon Joe would survive.

[El Kabong]

I voted no and even to suggest that they should be tried for war crimes is fucking idiotic.....all due respect miles

[Nameless]

I voted no and even to suggest that they should be tried for war crimes is fucking idiotic.....all due respect miles

So you can create proofs to attack a country for wrong reasons, you can be responsible for more than 500 000 innocent children, give contracts without call offers to your friends, admit it publicly, ruin the job of the wife of somebody who did debunk a proof by refusing to say what they pressured him to say (his wife being a devoted CIA agent who gave her life for her country) and it is all candy?

[El Kabong]

So you can create proofs to attack a country for wrong reasons, you can be responsible for more than 500 000 innocent children, give contracts without call offers to your friends, admit it publicly, ruin the job of the wife of somebody who did debunk a proof by refusing to say what they pressured him to say (his wife being a devoted CIA agent who gave her life for her country) and it is all candy?

Really we didn't need a reason....who put Saddam in power to begin with? If the US put Saddam in power to begin with then why shouldn't we be able to swap him out?

I also might remind you that the talk against Iraq was heating up before W got into power something was going to happen to Saddam whether W got elected or not.

If anything America has fought these two wars with one hand tied behind our backs, it could have been worse for those people over there.

Also these are not war crimes just based on past events that weren't considered war crimes, Fire bombing of Dresden, Sherman's March, Armenian Genocide etc. and those were far worse than anything W or Blair have done so let's not make a big deal out of something that historically speaking isn't a big deal

[Nameless]

So you can create proofs to attack a country for wrong reasons, you can be responsible for more than 500 000 innocent children, give contracts without call offers to your friends, admit it publicly, ruin the job of the wife of somebody who did debunk a proof by refusing to say what they pressured him to say (his wife being a devoted CIA agent who gave her life for her country) and it is all candy?

Really we didn't need a reason....who put Saddam in power to begin with? If the US put Saddam in power to begin with then why shouldn't we be able to swap him out?

I also might remind you that the talk against Iraq was heating up before W got into power something was going to happen to Saddam whether W got elected or not.

If anything America has fought these two wars with one hand tied behind our backs, it could have been worse for those people over there.

Also these are not war crimes just based on past events that weren't considered war crimes, Fire bombing of Dresden, Sherman's March, Armenian Genocide etc. and those were far worse than anything W or Blair have done so let's not make a big deal out of something that historically speaking isn't a big deal

1) I agree that peoples like CurtisLemay and CIe who did organize the Dresden bombing etc should be sentenced for Warcrime too, now the question was about W and Blair so I answered that part only.

2) They put a tyran in power knowing that he was mangling Shiites and Kurdis is absolutely unacceptable and to remove him because they need to finance a war for their friends interests is even worst as it killed I don't know how many millions innocents including 500 000 young children. If you put a maniac in power to serve your even more maniac interests, you cannot justify to swap him off killing millions to serve, once again, your own interests.

3) The talk with Saddam was a long time planned PNAC plan The Pontifical North American College, America's Seminary in Rome, this doesn't care about moral or whatever else, it's only about self interests, which is unacceptable too.

4) No, according to AMnesty International, Human Right Watch, the UN and even the Red Cross, situation in Iraq since the invasion did deteriorate to a chaotic degree, just the education itself went down by like 75% or something like that, I can find you back the exact numbers if you don't believe me.

[El Kabong]

All of that stuff you wrote whether people agree with it or not is erroneous. So what War is bad so is starvation, poverty, and drug abuse, but those aren't going to stop just because people think they are bad.

W and Blair are not War Criminals they simply didn't do enough and they didn't act with enough malice to earn that status.

[Gandalf]

I voted no and even to suggest that they should be tried for war crimes is fucking idiotic.....all due respect miles

No offense taken, but why do you think it is idiotic?

[BoxingGorilla]

No Way; No How.