Quote Originally Posted by BABABOOEY
I really love how people on this forum love to tell me "you need to do this and that". I've seen plenty of Royce Gracie and Tito Ortiz. My decision is what it is. Tito Ortiz is a one dimensional fighter, ground and pound. But that crap dont work against a real Ju-Jitsu expert.

And I only brought up Kimo and Severn cuz they were both much bigger and stronger then Royce, yet he made them tap. I know Kimo was garbage.
Tito is one dimensional you used him as an example not me
If Titos style doesn't work against Jui Jitsui how come Frank Shamrock could'nt get him in a submission or is Frank Shamrock not a good submission fighter

I don't think Tito even makes the top 10 at 205 anymore

Are any Gracies competing in the PRIDE GPs
If not why these are the best tournaments in MMA