The Death Penalty

[Nameless]

This topic has been discussed a few weeks/months ago, as some of you seem to have missed it, here are my thoughts and some interesting facts about the matter:


1) removing a life will always break the life of many peoples around, no matter what, a mother and a father are a mother and a father and will always be saddened by the lost of a son or a daughter, no matter what bad thing he could have done, there is also often close friends, brothers and sisters etc. Not only does the sentenced death won't correct at all the situation but it'll just bring more grieving and sadness around and the vindicative feeling, no matter how, is not a healthy thing. (BEfore somebody ask me, NO, I wouldn't want somebody who killed my brother to get killed in return)

2) There is a HUGE part of mistake, more than 135 peoples have been death sentenced and weren't responsible. The reason? judiciary mistake and the fact that most of these peoples were coming from poor environment and couldn't afford a normal lawyer. As you can't overturn it once the person has been executed, I cannot support a system that will create incredible and irreversible consequences, and we all know how the death of a loved one will be eternally painful. Also, Most peoples sentenced to death are Hispanic (80%) and Black (35%), coincidentially, those from the poorest minorities. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/FactSheet.pdf

3) The execution system of somebody is much more expensive than to keep him as an inmate, We are talking 6 times the price of an inmating in florida, for example; Costs of the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center

4), Person who commit a violent crime are way more likely to do it again in a place where the death sentence is applied. The reason? They have nothing to lose as they know that their days are more likely to come to an end, which is a kind of spiral because it enforces some hardcore criminal to become even more hardcore: (See la peine de Mort aux Etats-Unis by Andre KAspi)

So for all these reasons (among others), I cannot suscribe to a system that is more expensive and that causes more harms than good. I cannot neither suscribe to an unfair system where riches have good chance to escape it and simply be life sentenced and where poors have no chances to defend themselves and will more likely walk the thin green line, the whole thing destroying even more lifes around.

[Spicoli]

Not entirely in favor in some regards.Not for the righteous god think side but because frankly its to easy a way for some of the lowest forms of humanity.Any man or woman can 'justify' an action that leads to taking of a life...it happens everyday but in some cases its all very cut and dry.Rape of children,murders and savagery done onto total innocence be they elderly or the youngest amongst us arrives at their own consequence.Have thought for a while that maybe the direct family of victims should be the deciding factor for a guiltys fate....though can they bare losing close family only to directly decide life or death of yet another.Many would seem to savor that call.Vigilante justice has to be prevalent,put yourself in someones shoes who loses a loved one.Very easy to become what you despise and detest in another,switch roles in an instant...some could live with that in a hope of finding "justice".Shit...need coffee

[Master]

More than two-thirds of the world’s countries have abolished the death penalty.

Between 1972 and 1976, the death penalty in the US was suspended after it was found to violate the constitution.

Since it was re-instated in 1976, 1,151 people have been executed.

The death sentence is not uniformly applied – just 2% of murderers actually end up on death row.

95% of death row prisoners cannot afford their own attorney.

95% of executions last year were in the Southern states.

80% of executions cases involve a white murder victim, even though half of all murder victims are African American.

The average length of time between sentencing and execution is more than 12 years.

The lethal injection involves a drug considered inhumane by the American Veterinary Medical association and banned in many states for use on animals.

[Dark Lord Al]

More than two-thirds of the world’s countries have abolished the death penalty.

Between 1972 and 1976, the death penalty in the US was suspended after it was found to violate the constitution.

Since it was re-instated in 1976, 1,151 people have been executed.

The death sentence is not uniformly applied – just 2% of murderers actually end up on death row.

95% of death row prisoners cannot afford their own attorney.

95% of executions last year were in the Southern states.

80% of executions cases involve a white murder victim, even though half of all murder victims are African American.

The average length of time between sentencing and execution is more than 12 years.

The lethal injection involves a drug considered inhumane by the American Veterinary Medical association and banned in many states for use on animals.

Yes so let me string em up with a rope then.

[Nameless]

Not entirely in favor in some regards.Not for the righteous god think side but because frankly its to easy a way for some of the lowest forms of humanity.Any man or woman can 'justify' an action that leads to taking of a life...it happens everyday but in some cases its all very cut and dry.Rape of children,murders and savagery done onto total innocence be they elderly or the youngest amongst us arrives at their own consequence.Have thought for a while that maybe the direct family of victims should be the deciding factor for a guiltys fate....though can they bare losing close family only to directly decide life or death of yet another.Many would seem to savor that call.Vigilante justice has to be prevalent,put yourself in someones shoes who loses a loved one.Very easy to become what you despise and detest in another,switch roles in an instant...some could live with that in a hope of finding "justice".Shit...need coffee

Get some and come back to this discussion

[ryanman]

Its terrible.

Sorry, really busy. But its terrible. I hate everyone that supports it. Bye.

[Master]

Its terrible.

Sorry, really busy. But its terrible. I hate everyone that supports it. Bye.

Thanks for your intellectual input. You can converted me.

[ryanman]

Sorry, Haven't got time to bore you all with a long essay, but i get the impression for most people its a question of which is the worst punishment between death and a life sentence.

Are there any other people who, like me, actually are against it because its too much of a punishment?

It seems that most people that are against it is for the reason that the offender would suffer more by being kept alive in prison serving a life sentence.

Is there anyone against it simply because its wrong?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Sorry, Haven't got time to bore you all with a long essay, but i get the impression for most people its a question of which is the worst punishment between death and a life sentence.

Are there any other people who, like me, actually are against it because its too much of a punishment?

It seems that most people that are against it is for the reason that the offender would suffer more by being kept alive in prison serving a life sentence.

Is there anyone against it simply because its wrong?

yes, me.

Let's get this straight - we are teaching people it is wrong to kill by um, the state killing you. Sound logic, not a single flaw I can see, no not one.

[Andre]

Sorry, Haven't got time to bore you all with a long essay, but i get the impression for most people its a question of which is the worst punishment between death and a life sentence.

Are there any other people who, like me, actually are against it because its too much of a punishment?

It seems that most people that are against it is for the reason that the offender would suffer more by being kept alive in prison serving a life sentence.

Is there anyone against it simply because its wrong?

Yeah me.
An eye for an eye is old testament stuff, it makes both sides as bad as each other.

[Dark Lord Al]

Sorry, Haven't got time to bore you all with a long essay, but i get the impression for most people its a question of which is the worst punishment between death and a life sentence.

Are there any other people who, like me, actually are against it because its too much of a punishment?

It seems that most people that are against it is for the reason that the offender would suffer more by being kept alive in prison serving a life sentence.

Is there anyone against it simply because its wrong?

Ok then lets have it from now on , eg. make it law that if u kill someone ( murder ) , or rape , then you get swung by the neck , then if anyones stupid enough to do it , then thats life., end of story.
Or we could make it into a TV show like the running man , and all the money raised goes to the family of the victim's.
I d pay PPV for sure.