Should Bush and Blair be tried for war crimes?

[Nameless]

Kirkland:



3) War is inherently immoral and it (unfortunately) is a mainstay of human society. Trying to impose some arbitrary rules which classify some people as "war criminals", except perhaps in extreme cases, is a futile exercise in semantics and political posturing.

Don't you think that creating phony proofs to go suck somebody else oil, killing a few millions lives including 500 000 innocent children, waging a war that should have never happen because there was no threats is one of the extreme cases?

[CFH]

Kirkland:



3) War is inherently immoral and it (unfortunately) is a mainstay of human society. Trying to impose some arbitrary rules which classify some people as "war criminals", except perhaps in extreme cases, is a futile exercise in semantics and political posturing.

Don't you think that creating phony proofs to go suck somebody else oil, killing a few millions lives including 500 000 innocent children, waging a war that should have never happen because there was no threats is one of the extreme cases?

Unfortunately, I think it's pretty common in regards to war. That doesn't make it right, I probably cannot accurately express how opposed I am to this type of war (and almost all wars to be honest), but I don't think what has happened in Iraq is uncommon in any way regarding the ways wars are conducted.

[Nameless]

Kirkland:



3) War is inherently immoral and it (unfortunately) is a mainstay of human society. Trying to impose some arbitrary rules which classify some people as "war criminals", except perhaps in extreme cases, is a futile exercise in semantics and political posturing.

Don't you think that creating phony proofs to go suck somebody else oil, killing a few millions lives including 500 000 innocent children, waging a war that should have never happen because there was no threats is one of the extreme cases?

Unfortunately, I think it's pretty common in regards to war. That doesn't make it right, I probably cannot accurately express how opposed I am to this type of war (and almost all wars to be honest), but I don't think what has happened in Iraq is uncommon in any way regarding the ways wars are conducted.

It is not that common either and if you ask me, all those creating wrong reasons, leading to the demise of millions of peoples (or thousands) based on a lie they knew was a lie only for their oil and ideological ideas are guilty. I am not expressing this thought only to Bush and Blair but to all the sordid dictators in the world, present past and future and thosw who would do the same. The present debate was about Bush and Blair so I did reduce my opinion only for these 2 for the occasion.

[Gandalf]

Well, spoken Nameless.

To suggest that Bush and Blair "haven't done enough" to be deserving of war crimes charges is somewhat ridiculous in itself. The death of well over a million people is blood enough.

The wars were ill-concieved, founded upon fairy tale evidence and resulted in chaos and mass murder. The war was illegal under international protocol. We had no right to go ahead and impose our will unilaterally. The world was opposed to Iraq because most knew it was wrong. Bush knew that and simply didn't want to sit around waiting any longer. He knew that it was unlikely repurcussions would come back to bite him, what with being President of the USA. What was the world going to do? Call him a naughty boy? He could live with that just as long as his nations vested interests were served.