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    Default Re: Did Joan Guzman Get A Gift ?

    I thought it was an unlucky draw for Funeka. But judging on a round-by-round basis Guzman has claims to round -

    1, 2, 4, 7 and 12 with 3 and 11 even.

    So that means 115-115 is a gettable score.

    Did Funeka LOOK the winner? Yes. Did he actually convincingly dominate these rounds? No.

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    Default Re: Did Joan Guzman Get A Gift ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I thought it was an unlucky draw for Funeka. But judging on a round-by-round basis Guzman has claims to round -

    1, 2, 4, 7 and 12 with 3 and 11 even.

    So that means 115-115 is a gettable score.

    Did Funeka LOOK the winner? Yes. Did he actually convincingly dominate these rounds? No.

    Unlucky.. but that's boxing.

    I can see what your saying there mate, there was a few close rounds I agree, It was Guzman throwing and being more aggressive but I thought the cleaner and more damaging blows were from Funeka.


    I also agree with Lyle I think the damage to his nose especially did hamper him badly, I think it was a mistake to fight a guy like this in a 12 rounder after being out so long, he needed a warm up if you ask me.

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    Default Re: Did Joan Guzman Get A Gift ?

    Very bad robbery . Can someone think of one worst than that this year? Cause I can't

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    Default Re: Did Joan Guzman Get A Gift ?

    gotta be one of the worst this year. funeka and guzman fought on what was that of as a neutral ground and funeka got robbed. i could understand the malinaggi diaz fight coz it was in houston. i think funeka made guzman look foolish last night. guzman trying to showboat and getting tagged is a highlight of that fight. i think funeka is a good fighter.. a fine one at that. but he needs how to finish. he's got guzman staggerring around and could not hit him after that.
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    Default Re: Did Joan Guzman Get A Gift ?

    Maliggnagi vs Diaz wasnt a robbery. It was a close fight but people aare overeggagerating the outcome . It could have gone either way. But i wont get off topic. Funika shouldnt even take a rematch, he won the fight in everyone's eyes except a couple blind or bribed judges.

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    Default Re: Did Joan Guzman Get A Gift ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I thought it was an unlucky draw for Funeka. But judging on a round-by-round basis Guzman has claims to round -

    1, 2, 4, 7 and 12 with 3 and 11 even.

    So that means 115-115 is a gettable score.

    Did Funeka LOOK the winner? Yes. Did he actually convincingly dominate these rounds? No.

    Unlucky.. but that's boxing.
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    Default Re: Did Joan Guzman Get A Gift ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I thought it was an unlucky draw for Funeka. But judging on a round-by-round basis Guzman has claims to round -

    1, 2, 4, 7 and 12 with 3 and 11 even.

    So that means 115-115 is a gettable score.

    Did Funeka LOOK the winner? Yes. Did he actually convincingly dominate these rounds? No.

    Unlucky.. but that's boxing.
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    I'm serious.

    Watch the fight in silence (so you're not swayed by the silly over-the-top bias commentary), I guarantee you'll see Funeka MISS most of his punches, you'll still see Funeka as the winner but will also see how Guzman could have easily been awarded 6 rounds. Trust me.

    That draw was doable. Fact.
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    Default Re: I Hate To Say This But My Boy Joan Guzman Did Get Battered.

    Fenster, please tell me your being sarcastic. Because if your not, im gonna have to actually watch the fight and i would hate to witness a genuine robbery
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    Default Re: Did Joan Guzman Get A Gift ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I thought it was an unlucky draw for Funeka. But judging on a round-by-round basis Guzman has claims to round -

    1, 2, 4, 7 and 12 with 3 and 11 even.

    So that means 115-115 is a gettable score.

    Did Funeka LOOK the winner? Yes. Did he actually convincingly dominate these rounds? No.

    Unlucky.. but that's boxing.
    ^^this =





    I'm serious.

    Watch the fight in silence (so you're not swayed by the silly over-the-top bias commentary), I guarantee you'll see Funeka MISS most of his punches, you'll still see Funeka as the winner but will also see how Guzman could have easily been awarded 6 rounds. Trust me.

    That draw was doable. Fact.
    Thanks to my kids and or antonio tarver i often watch non ppv fights without the sound....and i have to sorta agree. Judging each round by itself and not looking at guzmans apperance to judge punches landed it was a pretty close scrap. I still had funeka winning though.
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    Default Re: I Hate To Say This But My Boy Joan Guzman Did Get Battered.

    Jimmy, you need to watch it with the sound down otherwise it's pointless.

    Good to see Mar saw it too. I'm not the only one.

    Some of the rounds were much closer than people realise due to A) commentator persuasion and B) unwittingly overstating the underdog's work when doing better than expected.

    These are common mistakes we all make. Fact.
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    Default Re: I Hate To Say This But My Boy Joan Guzman Did Get Battered.

    There are always people who say, "Well there were some close rounds, so it's really not that outrageous." I thought this would be the very rare occasion where this didn't happen. I'm really scratching my head as to how you guys are justifying this decision?! Juan looked totally frustrated, and even when he did land some good body shots, he had too many lapses in activity. Other than that, he threw all looping desperate rights at Ali's head that for all the desperation, had no chance of being meaningful, as he wasn't turning them over. I guess if it was a slap contest it was close...

    Besides you all also say you think he won, even with all that rationalizing, so to me me that really equals robbery/horrible judging no matter how much sugar you put on it.
    Last edited by Myk_Myk; 11-30-2009 at 05:46 PM.

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    Default Re: I Hate To Say This But My Boy Joan Guzman Did Get Battered.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Jimmy, you need to watch it with the sound down otherwise it's pointless.

    Good to see Mar saw it too. I'm not the only one.

    Some of the rounds were much closer than people realise due to A) commentator persuasion and B) unwittingly overstating the underdog's work when doing better than expected.

    These are common mistakes we all make. Fact.
    Ohh the merge, gotcha.Ahh Fenster ....as equally effective to watching with no Volume is actually watching with your eyes open .If anything, the commentary was swaying Sugar Ray Guzmans way the first two rounds while Funeka was getting that jab rolling.Eventually they could not look past Guzmans lack of answers and his face falling into the likeness of a raw heavily sauced meatloaf seeing him reduced to waving Funeka in and hucking wide errand right hands.Not close,not full of nip and tuck rounds hard to score...just a pants around the ankles-bend and cough robe job on Funeka
    Last edited by Spicoli; 12-01-2009 at 12:50 AM.

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