Pavlik vs Bute

[armin]

"Add to this that Pavlik doesn't have Andrade's pressure and resilience"

Kelly got plenty of resilience. Pavlik needs to stay at 160, both times he went above the weight he's looked less than stellar. Although bute would probably beat pavlik at his best...

[ICB]

Well Kelly Pavlik didn't seem to have the same pop, above Middleweight. And he didn't seem as effective, aka Jermain Taylor 2, aka Bernard Hopkins. So based on that i think Lucian Bute would win by TKO, Lucian Bute is a very good outside fighter.

And is good at pot shotting especially with his straight left hand, he is also an underrated body puncher. I think Lucian Bute would be too mobile for Kelly Pavlik and would make him look average IMO.

And people are mentioning Kelly Pavlik's power, well what about Lucian Bute's power ? he's stopped some very tough guys, and he seems to have a pretty solid enough chin aswell, where as Kelly Pavlik has been down and stunned plenty of times. And didn't seem to have the same thudding power, above Middleweight in the fights i mentioned above.

I think Lucian Bute would stop Kelly Pavlik in 9 or 10 rounds, he hits hard enough for Kelly Pavlik not to just rush in. He's too mobile for the slow footed Kelly Pavlik, and he's too slick. Aswell as being too good of a counter puncher.

The only thing that worries me is that Kelly Pavlik, has a big reach advantage. And he does punch very straight, so im a bit concerned about my boy Lucian Bute, getting caught with one of Kelly Pavlik's big booming right hands, but for now i'll stand by with my prediction.

[Nameless]

"Add to this that Pavlik doesn't have Andrade's pressure and resilience"

Kelly got plenty of resilience. Pavlik needs to stay at 160, both times he went above the weight he's looked less than stellar. Although bute would probably beat pavlik at his best...

PAvlik has a big heart, he's strong physically. However, his resilience and jaw are nowhere close to Andrade. IN the 3 first rounds, Andrade did eat some very good bombs that would have cracked PAvlik far before.

[Zilla]

I would have said Lucian Bute would beat Pavlik handily even before the 2nd Andrade fight. Now I'm sure it would be a trouncing.

[Zilla]

I was half paying attention- who's got the bad elbows, Bute or Andrade?

[JazMerkin]

Bute stops him in 3 rounds imo. Pavlik always looks a bit vulnerable early & I think once Bute hurts him, he'll close the show.

[DaxxKahn]

I go with Bute by UD, IMO as most peoples it seems is if Kelly can land the right hand enough to hurt Bute to the point he is really staggered but Bute has a pretty good chin and I don't see him getting trounced by one shot.

I see this being simular to the Hopkins fight where Pavlik is game but he just gets out classed by a superior boxer

[jdonaher1]

I'm a little worried as to where Pavlik's head is these days. I've been reading lots of rumors (all of them bad). Given Bute's recent fights and Pavlik looking completley lost when he moved up to face Hopkins I say Bute by wide decision or late KO.

Hope the fight comes off anyways as it more good exposure for Bute. If he wins he's in-line for a good payday vs. Dawson or the Super 6 winner.

[armin]

"PAvlik has a big heart, he's strong physically. However, his resilience and jaw are nowhere close to Andrade"

Well I don't factor jaw into resilience, pavlik to me has plenty of resilience by getting up every time he's been down, and even when he was beat over 12 rounds by hop he just kept coming, so his jaw might not be on the level of andrade but his resilience and will sure are.