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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Guys let's put something into perspective here, who are the BIG heavies who its supposedly unfair for them to be in the division?

    I cannot think of a fighter in the whole history of boxing who was too big for the heavyweight division, in terms of the other heavyweights not being able to count with his size.

    As I said before go above 260 lbs and there is nobody in the history of the sport who was any good.

    ALL of the best heavyweights ever were reasonably sized.

    Wladimir averages just over 240 lbs a fight. George Forman weighed over 250 lbs for his fight with Evander Holyfield, and weighed in over 220 in his prime, hardly a weight disadvantage.

    Even Ali at his heaviest weighed in within a few pounds of how much Wlad regularly weighs.

    These so called supersize heavyweights arn't really much bigger than the old greats, 10-15 lbs or so compared to the golden years of Foreman and Ali.

    Vitali is a bit bigger around 250, but that's a fair upper size limit imo, Lennox was certainly able to hold his own with him.

    The real giants above 275lbs are shockingly poor. In the whole history of boxing there has never been a great heavyweight above 275 lbs.

    Simply put, 250 lbs is probably the maximum upper limit for a human being to weigh and be effective as a boxer. Beyond that extra bodyweight just detracts from other factors such as speed, mobility, stamina, skill and coordination etc.

    If you made a superheavyweight division, all you would do is give opportunity to mediocre fighters, not even decent domestic level to become world champions.

    Imo you would even have MMA freaks like that Hong man Choi, former Sumo star Akebono and Giant Silva all turning to professional boxing and fighting for WBC and WBA world titles

    If we had a superheavyweight division this would be our future champs.

    GIANT SILVA



    Hong Man Choi




    Akebono




    Seriously, would ANYONE want these representing the highest weight class in our sport?
    Good post totally agree.

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    Default Re: time for another weight class?

    Boxing needs less weight divisions; not more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut View Post
    Boxing needs less weight divisions; not more.
    Right on m'man
    Cut out a lot of these bull jr. divisions

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    Default Re: time for another weight class?

    some good posts here, & they all make sense. what i was thinking was a superheavy divison cos i wouldnt have to watch all these useless twats ever again

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    Just because there's never been a good supersized heavyweight in the history of boxing, doesn't mean there couldn't be one in the future. I don't buy into that. If fans don't want another division (I sure don't either), then limit the weight of heavyweights to a maximum. Over 275 pounds... you're too big. Again... just 'cause Valuev and a couple of other circus freaks haven't taken advantage of their huge size, that doesn't mean someone couldn't come along, with the abilities and dedication to compete at a high level. THEN what? Do we just hand him the belts and let him go home? No... if there's weight maximums in ALL the other weight divisions, there should also be one in the heavyweights. IMHO, of course.

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    Default Re: time for another weight class?

    isn't it there's too many weight classes already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Just because there's never been a good supersized heavyweight in the history of boxing, doesn't mean there couldn't be one in the future. I don't buy into that. If fans don't want another division (I sure don't either), then limit the weight of heavyweights to a maximum. Over 275 pounds... you're too big. Again... just 'cause Valuev and a couple of other circus freaks haven't taken advantage of their huge size, that doesn't mean someone couldn't come along, with the abilities and dedication to compete at a high level. THEN what? Do we just hand him the belts and let him go home? No... if there's weight maximums in ALL the other weight divisions, there should also be one in the heavyweights. IMHO, of course.
    i dont think its fair that a boxer cant compete cos he is over a certain weight, i mean when your over 7ft u gonna be bloody heavy arnt u

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    ok people on here arnt overly keen on another weight division, but i still think its all the alphabet titles thats the problem personally thats what ruins the sport more than anything, remember when everyone knew who the heavyweight champion of the world was i think those days are over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drago View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Just because there's never been a good supersized heavyweight in the history of boxing, doesn't mean there couldn't be one in the future. I don't buy into that. If fans don't want another division (I sure don't either), then limit the weight of heavyweights to a maximum. Over 275 pounds... you're too big. Again... just 'cause Valuev and a couple of other circus freaks haven't taken advantage of their huge size, that doesn't mean someone couldn't come along, with the abilities and dedication to compete at a high level. THEN what? Do we just hand him the belts and let him go home? No... if there's weight maximums in ALL the other weight divisions, there should also be one in the heavyweights. IMHO, of course.
    i dont think its fair that a boxer cant compete cos he is over a certain weight, i mean when your over 7ft u gonna be bloody heavy arnt u
    No, you're right... it's not fair. But my main point is that people are saying that 7-footers are no good anyway, and basing their comments on the Valuevs of the world. Well... what if you get a 7-foot, 350-pounder with the movement and skill of, let's say... a Lennox Lewis. Who in hell would get in the ring with THAT? So... either form another division, which nobody wants, or don't let him complete, at least in professional boxing. Find the guy another sport, like MMA.

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