that's fine, and there's room for disagreement there. plenty of people agree with me though. and i definitely think that he hasn't looked as sharp at 147. it's all beside the point though, because i don't think anyone would argue that floyd's ideal weight is at 154 or 160, which is what it would take to make a fight versus Winky a pure p4p fight (i.e., one at which they're both fighting at their ideal weights). the point is that babybone's system makes a mash out of the whole p4p concept, as violent bob's post makes quite clear.Originally Posted by smashcrusher


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