Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Mar View Post
Everyone cries about floyd and how he fights yet these same people have bought and will buy every fight of his. All of the sudden mosely (who might not even beat berto) is the shit Mosely is a decent fighter no question, but i still remember him struggling against lesser opponets mayorga included. Floyd is crap, and everyone knows what he does in the ring yet no one can beat him or really even come close. The hate for the guy is ridiculous. The main reason people hate the guy is cause he's already beat, or would beat your favorite fighter. I used to hate the patriots for the exact same reason so I understand. I really wish he would have stayed retired, the longer he fights the sillyness just gets worse. I'm still waiting for pac to go for the heavyweight title at 145, totally possible. People are accepting all these other catchweitghts as valid so why not. Look let's just get to the bottom line once and for all. Any fight where floyd wins is considered a crappy fight. If he were ever to loose we'd hear none of al this garbage. He doesn't engage ? Engage him. He runs, cut off the ring etc......The thing is that's east to say and damn near impossible to do. So instead cry about a guy skilled enough to use his head instead of trying to impress fans who after he's gone will give a crap about all the punishmet taken. If other boxers had the ability speed skill to do what he does they would. Ask some of these guys 20 years from now when they can't even studder thier own name.
Look Mar this is all very simple. Floyd is shit to watch because he steals rounds, he is scared to trade and he is scared to test himself unless he gets copious amounts of cash and even then he will fight with a safety first approach. It's not crowd pleasing and when he is ducking, avoiding and spoiling he is not fighting, which is what he is being paid millions to do.

Would you really like to see what Floyd is made of? I would, been waiting all his career and the closest we saw was when Castillo handed his bollocks to him on a plate(mention the re-match you know you want to...again) Guys with great defense like Whitaker or SRL could have easily fought as 'scared' as Floyd but they were real fighters and they tried to take guys out.

In a nutshell Mar, people want to see this cunt get his face mashed in, me included, because he is the biggest pussy I have ever seen that claims to be something great. That's why people buy his fights, to see him lose, that don't bother him though, he has no desire to be great he has said it himself and he never will be in my mind anyway. In truth, there are many fighters past and present who could adopt his pussy style of fighting with ease but I don't think fighting that way ever crossed their minds.
I see your points and agree Kel.
World champions though are a different league from all other fighters. I knew a bloke who used to train and spar with Lionel Rose back in the day.He told me he got hired in cause he could bang and had ring smarts, Linoel got his ass whipped by my mate for about 30 miniutes straight my mate gave him a real beating and then just when he was thinking Sh!t maybe I should be going to Japan to fight Harada instead of this prick here, lionels corner gave him a nod and he ate my mate for breakfast in under a couple of miniutes he was down and realized that world champs train on a different level completly and that he was being used so Lionel could get used to being hit harder than he usually does.

So with that in mind you have to appreciate Floyd being able to keep ring smart under that sort of barrage against so many others over the years. Its all boxing.

Like you I'd still love to see him get wobbled and see if he has a heart to dig deep.

Be nice to see his mouth shut too.