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    Why would Hopkins fight Green? That's not a big money fight in the States. He hasn't even got an alphabet.
    Because RJJ signed a fight with Hopkins while negotiating the fight with Green. That would be a huge fight now that Green has KO'd RJJ in 1 round. Green even said during the pre fight negotiations after RJJ and BHOp signed that he should get BHOP's peoples numbers so when he defeats rjj they can negotiate.
    Jones-Hopkins was arranged before this fight because it was a BIG money Las Vegas veterans fight.

    Green-Hopkins is NOT a big fight in America. Green offers Hopkins nothing - no big money, no title, no big money!!! There's no chance of Hopkins going to OZ.
    Yeah exactly - Green V Hopkins offers nothing but a loss to Hopkins. He called Danny a no-one, Green just proved otherwise. So are you saying Hopkins only fights for the money? Does he want to fight the best to be the best? Green does. Who gives a fuck if the fight is not a big fight in America? He wanted RJJ and assumed he'd win so why wouldn't he want to fight the guy who destroyed him in 1 round?
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    Didn't Hopkins say he never would lose to a white boy. I'd have to say that this would be another loss to a white boy i'm afraid. If Green can keep up intensity to an attack on B-Hop for the duration, he would'nt stick it I don't think. I'd like to see it though for sure. Never seen much of Green but he looked really scary in the weigh-in for RJJ. He genuinely looks like he means business....

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    Didn't Hopkins say he never would lose to a white boy. I'd have to say that this would be another loss to a white boy i'm afraid. If Green can keep up intensity to an attack on B-Hop for the duration, he would'nt stick it I don't think. I'd like to see it though for sure. Never seen much of Green but he looked really scary in the weigh-in for RJJ. He genuinely looks like he means business....
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    And remember you are talking about a guy who sparred James Toney when Green was at Super Middle weight and Toney was at heavyweight - Green made Toney stop the session. Youtube it dudes - he is THE MAN!!
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    "Shove it up your bottoms guys. You don't know SHIT!!!!!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikersk View Post
    "Shove it up your bottoms guys. You don't know SHIT!!!!!"
    I was just telling you how it is. Not whether I think it's right or not. Glad you had a nice night
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    "Shove it up your bottoms guys. You don't know SHIT!!!!!"
    I was just telling you how it is. Not whether I think it's right or not. Glad you had a nice night
    Just quoting what Danny Green Said to the papers here who said he had no chance- thats all
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    Quote Originally Posted by themacmagician View Post
    Didn't Hopkins say he never would lose to a white boy. I'd have to say that this would be another loss to a white boy i'm afraid. If Green can keep up intensity to an attack on B-Hop for the duration, he would'nt stick it I don't think. I'd like to see it though for sure. Never seen much of Green but he looked really scary in the weigh-in for RJJ. He genuinely looks like he means business....

    Mate Hopkins would destroy Danny Green, Green fights in straight lines has no speed, Hopkins would make him look silly It would be a total shut out, just as bad as the Pavlik fight.

    Go watch Green against Mundine he was totally confused and embarrased in that fight and that was Mundine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikersk View Post
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    Because RJJ signed a fight with Hopkins while negotiating the fight with Green. That would be a huge fight now that Green has KO'd RJJ in 1 round. Green even said during the pre fight negotiations after RJJ and BHOp signed that he should get BHOP's peoples numbers so when he defeats rjj they can negotiate.
    Jones-Hopkins was arranged before this fight because it was a BIG money Las Vegas veterans fight.

    Green-Hopkins is NOT a big fight in America. Green offers Hopkins nothing - no big money, no title, no big money!!! There's no chance of Hopkins going to OZ.
    Yeah exactly - Green V Hopkins offers nothing but a loss to Hopkins. He called Danny a no-one, Green just proved otherwise. So are you saying Hopkins only fights for the money? Does he want to fight the best to be the best? Green does. Who gives a fuck if the fight is not a big fight in America? He wanted RJJ and assumed he'd win so why wouldn't he want to fight the guy who destroyed him in 1 round?
    Exactly. It's all about money.

    If Green can offer Hopkins more money stateside than his other limited options then you might see it. But Green doesn't even have a cruiserweight alphabet to help sell it.

    Hopkins turned down Adamek because HBO wouldn't give him $2million for it. Chad Dawson isn't worth enough money to Hopkins. They are HBO fighters. Green has a win over a shot-to-bits Roy Jones. It means nothing stateside.
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    Good win for Green, but you guys have to remember there is a big difference in beating an old RJJ and beating an old Hopkins. RJJ is about 6 years out of his prime. Bhop just keeps getting better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Good win for Green, but you guys have to remember there is a big difference in beating an old RJJ and beating an old Hopkins. RJJ is about 6 years out of his prime. Bhop just keeps getting better.
    So does that mean Green stops him in Round 2,3 or 4?
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    Good win for Green, but you guys have to remember there is a big difference in beating an old RJJ and beating an old Hopkins. RJJ is about 6 years out of his prime. Bhop just keeps getting better.
    That's the thing about Hopkins. People always go on about him getting better and that he keeps beating top fighters. Personally, I just see an old man with an ugly style who outside of beating Tarver (who hasn't beaten anyone since) hasn't really beaten anyone in his own weight class for nigh on half a decade. Winky and Pavlik were never anything more than MW's and they were fighting at LHW. And Calzaghe outworked Hopkins fair and square (though not quite so fair on Hopkins part).

    Hopkins is the same old Hopkins, it's just that he holds more to catch a breather. It is pretty impressive that he can do that, but I find the adulation of Hopkins a bit much TBH. Especially when in his prime his record stands on staying in his own division as long as possible, only beating smaller men who were moving up. But it's okay for everyone to hate on Calzaghe for staying at SMW though. Calzaghe eventually moved up and won a few fights and had the sense to retire rather than continue and only fight men who would run up two weight classes outside of their comfort zones to fight him. But of course, Hopkins is only ever getting better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    Good win for Green, but you guys have to remember there is a big difference in beating an old RJJ and beating an old Hopkins. RJJ is about 6 years out of his prime. Bhop just keeps getting better.
    That's the thing about Hopkins. People always go on about him getting better and that he keeps beating top fighters. Personally, I just see an old man with an ugly style who outside of beating Tarver (who hasn't beaten anyone since) hasn't really beaten anyone in his own weight class for nigh on half a decade. Winky and Pavlik were never anything more than MW's and they were fighting at LHW. And Calzaghe outworked Hopkins fair and square (though not quite so fair on Hopkins part).

    Hopkins is the same old Hopkins, it's just that he holds more to catch a breather. It is pretty impressive that he can do that, but I find the adulation of Hopkins a bit much TBH. Especially when in his prime his record stands on staying in his own division as long as possible, only beating smaller men who were moving up. But it's okay for everyone to hate on Calzaghe for staying at SMW though. Calzaghe eventually moved up and won a few fights and had the sense to retire rather than continue and only fight men who would run up two weight classes outside of their comfort zones to fight him. But of course, Hopkins is only ever getting better.
    I tend to agree , BHop is held in such adulation and personally I find his style boring these days. The same people who are poo pooing Green on here today are the ones who were giving him no chance, now they give him no chance against other suggested names. All I would say is watch what you wish for, if Green gets matched against your favourite don't go crying if they get sparked out, no excuses about RJJ and age etc etc , he got tagged and lost simple.

    I agree that Green can be made to look very bad and runs out of ideas, despite one example being "only" Mundine.

    Choc is a lazy SOB who won't step up but don't play down his talents, he can be a capable fighter. As for Greens next move, hope it's a big pay day for him and another win that will silence the critics, or if he fought BHop would the BHop fans flip flop and start banging on about how he beat an older man and not the legend of old blah blah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
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    Good win for Green, but you guys have to remember there is a big difference in beating an old RJJ and beating an old Hopkins. RJJ is about 6 years out of his prime. Bhop just keeps getting better.
    That's the thing about Hopkins. People always go on about him getting better and that he keeps beating top fighters. Personally, I just see an old man with an ugly style who outside of beating Tarver (who hasn't beaten anyone since) hasn't really beaten anyone in his own weight class for nigh on half a decade. Winky and Pavlik were never anything more than MW's and they were fighting at LHW. And Calzaghe outworked Hopkins fair and square (though not quite so fair on Hopkins part).

    Hopkins is the same old Hopkins, it's just that he holds more to catch a breather. It is pretty impressive that he can do that, but I find the adulation of Hopkins a bit much TBH. Especially when in his prime his record stands on staying in his own division as long as possible, only beating smaller men who were moving up. But it's okay for everyone to hate on Calzaghe for staying at SMW though. Calzaghe eventually moved up and won a few fights and had the sense to retire rather than continue and only fight men who would run up two weight classes outside of their comfort zones to fight him. But of course, Hopkins is only ever getting better.
    I tend to agree , BHop is held in such adulation and personally I find his style boring these days. The same people who are poo pooing Green on here today are the ones who were giving him no chance, now they give him no chance against other suggested names. All I would say is watch what you wish for, if Green gets matched against your favourite don't go crying if they get sparked out, no excuses about RJJ and age etc etc , he got tagged and lost simple.

    I agree that Green can be made to look very bad and runs out of ideas, despite one example being "only" Mundine.

    Choc is a lazy SOB who won't step up but don't play down his talents, he can be a capable fighter. As for Greens next move, hope it's a big pay day for him and another win that will silence the critics, or if he fought BHop would the BHop fans flip flop and start banging on about how he beat an older man and not the legend of old blah blah.

    As long as you don't overrate Green off the Roy Jones win and completely neglect all of his other fights then you shouldn't have a problem.
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    I think Bhop was right on the money when he said if these Aussies want to play for real come over and jump into the deep end of the pool with the real belts being contended. Come to America fight your way up like everyone else does or talk to the hand cause we dont need you.

    That should be a good wake up call to all Australian boxers!
    I agree we are like the second division down here and only the cream that risies to the top gets any attention at all but with no real substance behind it.

    We may as well make a ABO belt and stay at home for what 98% of our fighters are worth on the world view.
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