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    Default Re: Way faster than I expected

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    Fuk Vegas.

    They should do it it Manilla
    Floyd wouldn't make it out of the ring alive after the fight

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    Default Re: Way faster than I expected

    I think we all thought that if these negotiations dragged on it would be because of Floyd. But the fact that Floyd is jumping at this, aside from the obvious $$$$ potential, shows he wants this fight to prove he is still the pfp champ. Both these guys train so hard...but i think Floyd is fired up for this one and is going to try and make a point. Pac is the best fighter he has faced...so you know he will train like a madman. The buildup for this fight will be EPIC!!!

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    The latest is Pac is not willing to fight till after May:

    This is what his lawyer said:

    According to Manny's lawyer, Franklin Gacal, Manny doesn't want to fight until after the May elections in his home country. No fight in March or even May, most likey after.

    Gacal: "As of last nite, Manny said he doesn't want to fight in April or even May. There will be no fight. Maybe it will come after the elections. Everything will depend on the developments after the elections. But, again as of last nite, the March 13 and May 1 dates for Pac's next fight are out."

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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
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    It seems to good to be true and originally Freddie Roach wanted May because he did not feel Manny would be ready. This mega fight might be a rushed product and Manny gets blitzed early if it does happen in March. I hope I'm wrong.
    March = in 5 months. Manny and Roach have almost half a year to prepare that, plenty enough if you ask me.
    March 13 = 3 and a half months AND negotiations aren't even finalized yet.
    Hoops, I wanted to write 4 months:S sorry my mistake but still, I thought end of march, so even mid march means not even 4 months... so ok, perhaps a bit early, guess that my excitement took over for a brief 20 seconds You and Skel were right hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    The latest is Pac is not willing to fight till after May:

    This is what his lawyer said:

    According to Manny's lawyer, Franklin Gacal, Manny doesn't want to fight until after the May elections in his home country. No fight in March or even May, most likey after.

    Gacal: "As of last nite, Manny said he doesn't want to fight in April or even May. There will be no fight. Maybe it will come after the elections. Everything will depend on the developments after the elections. But, again as of last nite, the March 13 and May 1 dates for Pac's next fight are out."
    Yeah I read that earlier today. All that talk about how Mayweather couldn't be negotiated with. And how he don't really want the fight. And here we have Pacquiao obviously trying to postpone in hopes of canceling. Really it isn't much of a surprise. Mayweather is pretty much the first opponent Pacquiao would have faced that didn't have some kind of question mark around him coming into the fight. Pacquiao has a nice little charade going on right now with the media and the naive Boxing fans. Mayweather ruins that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimboogie View Post
    Fuk Vegas.

    They should do it it Manilla
    Floyd wouldn't make it out of the ring alive after the fight
    no idiot would do it in manila.i dont think anybody fancy floyd there. i dont think floyd would go past the airport parking lot even with his bodyguards with him let alone after the fight. and he wont be able to play his antics over there anyway and that would be a boring 24/7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    The latest is Pac is not willing to fight till after May:

    This is what his lawyer said:

    According to Manny's lawyer, Franklin Gacal, Manny doesn't want to fight until after the May elections in his home country. No fight in March or even May, most likey after.

    Gacal: "As of last nite, Manny said he doesn't want to fight in April or even May. There will be no fight. Maybe it will come after the elections. Everything will depend on the developments after the elections. But, again as of last nite, the March 13 and May 1 dates for Pac's next fight are out."
    Yeah I read that earlier today. All that talk about how Mayweather couldn't be negotiated with. And how he don't really want the fight. And here we have Pacquiao obviously trying to postpone in hopes of canceling. Really it isn't much of a surprise. Mayweather is pretty much the first opponent Pacquiao would have faced that didn't have some kind of question mark around him coming into the fight. Pacquiao has a nice little charade going on right now with the media and the naive Boxing fans. Mayweather ruins that.
    and you want him to fight mayweather after 3 months of fighting cotto? who gives a rats about what you say. you're a pac hater to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    The latest is Pac is not willing to fight till after May:

    This is what his lawyer said:

    According to Manny's lawyer, Franklin Gacal, Manny doesn't want to fight until after the May elections in his home country. No fight in March or even May, most likey after.

    Gacal: "As of last nite, Manny said he doesn't want to fight in April or even May. There will be no fight. Maybe it will come after the elections. Everything will depend on the developments after the elections. But, again as of last nite, the March 13 and May 1 dates for Pac's next fight are out."
    Yeah I read that earlier today. All that talk about how Mayweather couldn't be negotiated with. And how he don't really want the fight. And here we have Pacquiao obviously trying to postpone in hopes of canceling. Really it isn't much of a surprise. Mayweather is pretty much the first opponent Pacquiao would have faced that didn't have some kind of question mark around him coming into the fight. Pacquiao has a nice little charade going on right now with the media and the naive Boxing fans. Mayweather ruins that.
    I agree to an extent. I would never accuse Manny of being afraid of anyone...one thing there is no questioning...the guy is fearless. That being said...Roach knows damn well that Floyd is no Oscar, Hatton, or Cotto....in fact he is by far the most skilled fighter Pac will have ever faced. Roach has been very smart in who he has picked to face Manny in the last three fights...but this fight is happening because the market demands it...not because Freddie thinks manny will have the best chance. Roach knows he has to add some new wrinkles to Manny's game in order to beat a fighter of Mayweather's caliber. I am not saying Pac doesn't have a chance (in fact Pac is the best fighter Floyd has faced in his career as well)...but Manny and Roach will have to produce something truly special to beat Floyd. I still have a strong feeling Mayweather puts on a boxing clinic. I cannot imagine what the buildup for this fight will be like...insane!

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    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    The latest is Pac is not willing to fight till after May:

    This is what his lawyer said:

    According to Manny's lawyer, Franklin Gacal, Manny doesn't want to fight until after the May elections in his home country. No fight in March or even May, most likey after.

    Gacal: "As of last nite, Manny said he doesn't want to fight in April or even May. There will be no fight. Maybe it will come after the elections. Everything will depend on the developments after the elections. But, again as of last nite, the March 13 and May 1 dates for Pac's next fight are out."
    Yeah I read that earlier today. All that talk about how Mayweather couldn't be negotiated with. And how he don't really want the fight. And here we have Pacquiao obviously trying to postpone in hopes of canceling. Really it isn't much of a surprise. Mayweather is pretty much the first opponent Pacquiao would have faced that didn't have some kind of question mark around him coming into the fight. Pacquiao has a nice little charade going on right now with the media and the naive Boxing fans. Mayweather ruins that.
    and you want him to fight mayweather after 3 months of fighting cotto? who gives a rats about what you say. you're a pac hater to begin with.
    WTF? 3 months? Mayweather said they can do it in May! & Pacquiao is still saying no, if these reports are correct.

    No more excuses. If these reports are correct Pacquiao is definitely avoiding this fight. Mayweather agreed to the conditions and even gave Pacquiao the option to pick one of 2 dates his people negotiated and still Pacquiao says no, if these reports are correct.

    If this fight does not happen between March to May, it's because Pacquiao is avoiding it. Plain & simple.

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    They will fight, just a matter of time. No excuses either win or loose. Some people likes mayweather's style and some likes pac's style. It's just preference, so no point in hating. Lets see which style comes on top.
    Too many people here brush off pac's victories with excuses. And many making excuses for mayweather's record. But at the end, this fight means a lot for both fighters to seal their fate in history. This fight should happen sooner or later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knodaledge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    Yeah I read that earlier today. All that talk about how Mayweather couldn't be negotiated with. And how he don't really want the fight. And here we have Pacquiao obviously trying to postpone in hopes of canceling. Really it isn't much of a surprise. Mayweather is pretty much the first opponent Pacquiao would have faced that didn't have some kind of question mark around him coming into the fight. Pacquiao has a nice little charade going on right now with the media and the naive Boxing fans. Mayweather ruins that.
    and you want him to fight mayweather after 3 months of fighting cotto? who gives a rats about what you say. you're a pac hater to begin with.
    WTF? 3 months? Mayweather said they can do it in May! & Pacquiao is still saying no, if these reports are correct.

    No more excuses. If these reports are correct Pacquiao is definitely avoiding this fight. Mayweather agreed to the conditions and even gave Pacquiao the option to pick one of 2 dates his people negotiated and still Pacquiao says no, if these reports are correct.

    If this fight does not happen between March to May, it's because Pacquiao is avoiding it. Plain & simple.
    Absolutely true. You can not excuse the Cotto fight on this one. When PBF hesitated about the March date people were quick to say PBF is ducking. Pac's people negotiated these dates and PBF finally came to an agreement with either date, to avoid Pac's political affairs, and then Pac refuses either of the dates his team negotiated for. Pac said he wouldn't do the fight in March, April, or May. So then you're looking at best, with the Pac's political run, late 2010. Thats really putting this fight in jeopardy. And PBF is not to blame.

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    Dates ive seen getting thrown about is March 13th May 1st and September

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    Quote Originally Posted by knodaledge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    Yeah I read that earlier today. All that talk about how Mayweather couldn't be negotiated with. And how he don't really want the fight. And here we have Pacquiao obviously trying to postpone in hopes of canceling. Really it isn't much of a surprise. Mayweather is pretty much the first opponent Pacquiao would have faced that didn't have some kind of question mark around him coming into the fight. Pacquiao has a nice little charade going on right now with the media and the naive Boxing fans. Mayweather ruins that.
    and you want him to fight mayweather after 3 months of fighting cotto? who gives a rats about what you say. you're a pac hater to begin with.
    WTF? 3 months? Mayweather said they can do it in May! & Pacquiao is still saying no, if these reports are correct.

    No more excuses. If these reports are correct Pacquiao is definitely avoiding this fight. Mayweather agreed to the conditions and even gave Pacquiao the option to pick one of 2 dates his people negotiated and still Pacquiao says no, if these reports are correct.

    If this fight does not happen between March to May, it's because Pacquiao is avoiding it. Plain & simple.
    Your not from the Philippines so obviously you don't know anything about Pacman's plan in running into politics. It is well known here that he has plan to enter the political arena (again) even before the Pacman vs Cotto fight. And articles have been written about this locally and abroad. So its no surprise that he does not want to fight on March or May.

    Pacman is not avoiding a fight with Mayweather. He is just simply saying lets fight on another date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by knodaledge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post

    and you want him to fight mayweather after 3 months of fighting cotto? who gives a rats about what you say. you're a pac hater to begin with.
    WTF? 3 months? Mayweather said they can do it in May! & Pacquiao is still saying no, if these reports are correct.

    No more excuses. If these reports are correct Pacquiao is definitely avoiding this fight. Mayweather agreed to the conditions and even gave Pacquiao the option to pick one of 2 dates his people negotiated and still Pacquiao says no, if these reports are correct.

    If this fight does not happen between March to May, it's because Pacquiao is avoiding it. Plain & simple.
    Absolutely true. You can not excuse the Cotto fight on this one. When PBF hesitated about the March date people were quick to say PBF is ducking. Pac's people negotiated these dates and PBF finally came to an agreement with either date, to avoid Pac's political affairs, and then Pac refuses either of the dates his team negotiated for. Pac said he wouldn't do the fight in March, April, or May. So then you're looking at best, with the Pac's political run, late 2010. Thats really putting this fight in jeopardy. And PBF is not to blame.
    May you please post the link that indicate that Pac's people wanted the March, April, or May dates? Maybe Top Rank wanted it or HBO, but wanting it and asking Pacman himself or those managing his affairs in the Philippines are 2 different things.

    It is common knowledge that Pacman is running for a position in the government. As early as June 09. So its highly unlikely that Pacman himself wanted a March, April or May date. And Pacman is not to blame either. Whether its March or September its still going to be a blockbuster fight and I believe the fight will be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerome01 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by knodaledge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post

    and you want him to fight mayweather after 3 months of fighting cotto? who gives a rats about what you say. you're a pac hater to begin with.
    WTF? 3 months? Mayweather said they can do it in May! & Pacquiao is still saying no, if these reports are correct.

    No more excuses. If these reports are correct Pacquiao is definitely avoiding this fight. Mayweather agreed to the conditions and even gave Pacquiao the option to pick one of 2 dates his people negotiated and still Pacquiao says no, if these reports are correct.

    If this fight does not happen between March to May, it's because Pacquiao is avoiding it. Plain & simple.
    Your not from the Philippines so obviously you don't know anything about Pacman's plan in running into politics. It is well known here that he has plan to enter the political arena (again) even before the Pacman vs Cotto fight. And articles have been written about this locally and abroad. So its no surprise that he does not want to fight on March or May.

    Pacman is not avoiding a fight with Mayweather. He is just simply saying lets fight on another date.
    Thats neither here nor there. His people (Arum) negotiated those 2 dates and Mayweather agreed to them. Even Roach said he wants the fight to happen on May 1st.

    The fact is the negotiations happened and only one signature sits on the contract, Mayweather's. And now Pacquiao's lawyer is saying Pacquiao won't fight.

    "Trainer Freddie Roach has confirmed BoxingScene.com's big scoop over the weekend, Manny Pacquiao may move up to 154-pounds to target a world title shot against undefeated WBA champion Yuri Foreman. Foreman and Pacquiao are both promoted by Top Rank. Roach, who will be in Amir Khan's corner this Saturday, told British press that Floyd Mayweather Jr. doesn't want to fight Pacquiao in March, and Manny doesn't want to wait until May or June to fight again - likely due to a possible election run as noted earlier by BoxingScene's Ronnie Nathanielsz."

    But now it's "Hey, lets wait until September after all"

    One person is making this a difficult fight to make, one person is slowly revealing this fight may not happen...And it's not Mayweather.

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