Mundine thrown out of Green party!

[CFH]

Anthony Mundine was refused access to the Danny Green after party Wednesday night and he must have felt like a dried turd as he walked away.
3 and half years ago he beats Danny Green convincingly, it was a very good performance. In that time he has fought Sam Soliman two more times, a washed up Shannon Taylor and a host of South American cab drivers causing major shortages of Taxi availability in Argentina! How quickly it all turns around in boxing, Mundine has chosen an easy path that none of us know where that path will lead. Green has come back and taken on RJJ and although he is 40 was still regarded as being to slick for Danny Green. Bang goes Green and he KO's RJJ in 1 round, all of a sudden Green is a feared fighter. Hopkins doesn't want to know Green and pretends to not know where Australia is. Green will find it difficult to get fights, who will want to fight him? As for Mundine, he now says he will fight at Junior Middleweight?? I don't think i have ever seen a more mis- managed fighter.

No one wanted to fight him at 168. And he is fighting at 160. And this fight i saw with him at 160 he looked like a weight drained fighter could barely do anything and just barely got the win. He won't be good at 160, he'd be killing himself at 154, 168 is the place to be for him but no one wants to fight him there. If his management was smart they'd get him a fight with Green or something. Not Danny Green, Allan Green.

I might be the only person, but I'd love to see Bute - Mundine at 168. I really think that Mundine, much like Guzman, will go down as one of this generations poster boys for wasted talent.

[Fenster]

Anthony Mundine was refused access to the Danny Green after party Wednesday night and he must have felt like a dried turd as he walked away.
3 and half years ago he beats Danny Green convincingly, it was a very good performance. In that time he has fought Sam Soliman two more times, a washed up Shannon Taylor and a host of South American cab drivers causing major shortages of Taxi availability in Argentina! How quickly it all turns around in boxing, Mundine has chosen an easy path that none of us know where that path will lead. Green has come back and taken on RJJ and although he is 40 was still regarded as being to slick for Danny Green. Bang goes Green and he KO's RJJ in 1 round, all of a sudden Green is a feared fighter. Hopkins doesn't want to know Green and pretends to not know where Australia is. Green will find it difficult to get fights, who will want to fight him? As for Mundine, he now says he will fight at Junior Middleweight?? I don't think i have ever seen a more mis- managed fighter.

No one wanted to fight him at 168. And he is fighting at 160. And this fight i saw with him at 160 he looked like a weight drained fighter could barely do anything and just barely got the win. He won't be good at 160, he'd be killing himself at 154, 168 is the place to be for him but no one wants to fight him there. If his management was smart they'd get him a fight with Green or something. Not Danny Green, Allan Green.

I might be the only person, but I'd love to see Bute - Mundine at 168. I really think that Mundine, much like Guzman, will go down as one of this generations poster boys for wasted talent.

They don't belong in the same breath. Seriuosly. Mundine was knocked unconcious by powderpuff punching Sven Ottke for gods sake.

Mundine is nothing but a crap Roy Jones wannabe.

[ross]

No one wanted to fight him at 168. And he is fighting at 160. And this fight i saw with him at 160 he looked like a weight drained fighter could barely do anything and just barely got the win. He won't be good at 160, he'd be killing himself at 154, 168 is the place to be for him but no one wants to fight him there. If his management was smart they'd get him a fight with Green or something. Not Danny Green, Allan Green.

I might be the only person, but I'd love to see Bute - Mundine at 168. I really think that Mundine, much like Guzman, will go down as one of this generations poster boys for wasted talent.

They don't belong in the same breath. Seriuosly. Mundine was knocked unconcious by powderpuff punching Sven Ottke for gods sake.

Mundine is nothing but a crap Roy Jones wannabe.

Exactly and that goes to show how far Roy has dropped, if Calzaghe could still punch Jones would have gone early there as well.

If Jones cant do as well as Mundine who piissed all over Green then hes well shot

Green is strong and has some power but anyone with boxing ability should beat him like Mundine and Beyer did, I reckon Calzaghe could come back and beat Green too

[Pugilistic]

This is funny.

Hopkins is ducking Green ? hahaha

Why would Hopkins waste his time with Green when he plans on fighting much more important fighters like a Adamek or Haye ?

Green knocked out a past it Jones, Calzaghe would of done the same if he had power.

Hopkins would outbox Green no doubt in my mind. His counter punching ability, footwork and defense are far to much for Green to deal with.

[Greig]

This is funny.

Hopkins is ducking Green ? hahaha

Why would Hopkins waste his time with Green when he plans on fighting much more important fighters like a Adamek or Haye ?

Green knocked out a past it Jones, Calzaghe would of done the same if he had power.

Hopkins would outbox Green no doubt in my mind. His counter punching ability, footwork and defense are far to much for Green to deal with.

Got to stop you there to call BULLSHIT.


There is no way in hell Hopkins is ever sharing a ring with either of those two guys. Hopkins, in his 40's anyway, likes to pick on much smaller guys. He already had a fight with Adamek in the bag and then pulled this shit:-


Hopkins sells Adamek (and fans) short - ESPN

"Richard told me that Hopkins said if you want to have a split, we can't do the fight," Duva said. "It's astonishing. Either Richard doesn't want to make the fight or Hopkins is out to lunch on his expectations. Half a million is silly. Tomasz generates that on his own against regular opponents. I told Richard come up with what you think is an equitable split or tell me what Hopkins wants and we'll buy you out."

[Pugilistic]

This is funny.

Hopkins is ducking Green ? hahaha

Why would Hopkins waste his time with Green when he plans on fighting much more important fighters like a Adamek or Haye ?

Green knocked out a past it Jones, Calzaghe would of done the same if he had power.

Hopkins would outbox Green no doubt in my mind. His counter punching ability, footwork and defense are far to much for Green to deal with.

Got to stop you there to call BULLSHIT.


There is no way in hell Hopkins is ever sharing a ring with either of those two guys. Hopkins, in his 40's anyway, likes to pick on much smaller guys. He already had a fight with Adamek in the bag and then pulled this shit:-


Hopkins sells Adamek (and fans) short - ESPN

"Richard told me that Hopkins said if you want to have a split, we can't do the fight," Duva said. "It's astonishing. Either Richard doesn't want to make the fight or Hopkins is out to lunch on his expectations. Half a million is silly. Tomasz generates that on his own against regular opponents. I told Richard come up with what you think is an equitable split or tell me what Hopkins wants and we'll buy you out."

So an Adamek deal didn't work out, Hopkins was mostly to blame for this.

Why does that mean that Hopkins isn't now seeking a fight with them now though ?

He sounds pretty serious about the heavyweight thing, i would prefer if he stayed away from heavyweight though.

[Greig]

Bernard is a great fighter, no question. Yes, beating him is incredibly difficult.


But he's choosing his opponents very carefully these days. And I find 'buts' with some of this biggest wins. You're right when you say he was a huge underdog going into Trinidad, but not to me he wasn't which is why I took a nice piece home at 7-1.

He sounds serious about the heavyweight thing. But it won't happen because Bernard likes to stack the chips in his favour.

And offering Adamek $500,000 is just plain bullshit - he wasn't being greedy, he didn't want the fight, pure and simple.

[Pugilistic]

Hopkins fights about 30 seconds a round these days, but he fights it that well that its enough to beat most people.

People point to the Pavlik fight... Well Pavlik had bronchitis and was fighting 10 pounds outside his ideal weight class. Pavlik had no energy, no snap in his punches. I'm not saying he would have beaten Hopkins if he was 100%, but he would have been a lot more competitive. So my point is people saying Hopkins is sensational because of that performance are somewhat delusional. I think he deserves credit for the Tarver performance, but the Winky Wright and Pavlik fights I think, well, he beat up on much smaller guys, one of whom had bronchitis. Apart from Tarver, he hasn't fought a genuine 175 pounder yet...

You want to see how to beat Hopkins? Look at Calzaghe - he beat hm with blinding hand speed and work rate. The way Hopkins was looking to the ref for a breather in that fight was disgraceful. Now, credit to Hopkins - it was still a close fight, but Joe won no question.

That's the way to beat him - make the 45 year old work his bollocks off. I think Green could do that. MORE IMPORTANTLY, Green is the bigger guy, bigger puncher, bigger risk. That's why you'll never see the fight.


I think Green is a beast at 175, his last fights at 168 against Beyer and Mundine, he was a weight drained shell.

"Pavlik had bronchitis, he was fighting outside his natural weight class blah blah blah".

Sounds like excuses to me bud.

No one made Pavlik fight with bronchitis and no one made Pavlik move up to 170 pounds, He accepted it thinking he was gonna score a easy KO over an old fighter, hell Pavlik was a 4-1 favourite. Hopkins schooled him simple as.

People are so quick to make excuses against Hopkins when he wins a fight he wasn't supposed to.

Seeing as you like excuses, should i point out that Hopkins had a thyroid problem against Calzaghe. Thats the thing, i don't make excuses do i because Calzaghe fought a good fight and deserves credit.

You also make it sound like beating Hopkins is easy, Calzaghe had to make Hopkins work his ass off to sneak out a CLOSE win.

Theres no one around 175 or higher imo that can make Hopkins work like Calzaghe did.

There is no fighter that has Calzaghe's combination of speed, footwork, angles and workrate.

Danny Green is slow and easy to hit.

Green does have good power and is durable but Hopkins picks apart fighters like that.

And while I'm bagging Hopkins:-


De La Hoya
Trinidad
Winky
Pavlik
Calzaghe (yeah I know he lost)


Seems all B-Hops big fights have been against guys moving up. Apart from Tarver, when has he ever moved up and fought a guy much bigger than him?

Think all this heavyweight talk is bullshit myself

Hopkins fought DLH at a catchweight of 156 pounds which was only 2 pounds shy of where DLH was natural at, at that point in his career.

At 39 years old, Hopkins had to shed an extra 4 pounds where DLH had to add on 2 pounds.

Trinidad was the favourite to beat Hopkins, not only beat him but knock him out. Hopkins schooled him and unified the middleweight division.

Wright was being avoided by the best fighters around 160 so Hopkins took a fight with him at 42 years old.

Wright had no complaints with moving up 10 pounds and Wright was the favourite to beat Hopkins regardless of weight. Hopkins outscored Wright and won a clear decision.

I stated above about Pavlik.

Tarver is the best bigger fighter Hopkins has fought. The thing is, Hopkins campaign at light heavyweight is just icing on the cake, It's not like thats his career there.

His career at middleweight is why he is an ATG.