Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

[Tysonbruno]

They did same with Pacquiao he beats number 3 Cotto and jumps straight over number 1 Mosley and number 2 Mayweather to become number 1 in the Welterweight division.

[HattonTheHammer]

ridiculous

kessler, froch, abraham, ward and dirrell all beat bute on their day

What stinks is that we wont truly now how good bute is for another couple of years having to wait for the super6 to reach its conclusion.

2 sets of matches, plus semis and a grand final means that bute may not get a shot at froch or abraham for another 2 and a half years with by then both probably deciding to call it a day anyway

[Rantcatrat]

Ward beat Kessler who supposedly was the man in the division, but really what has Kessler done? I like Kessler and think he should destroy Froch, but his loss to Calzaghe for some reason made him famous. Don't forget Kessler's best wins were Mundine and Andrade. Bute's wins over Bika and Andrade (twice and once by knockout, being the first to stop him) are just as good in terms of the level of fighter (Mundine won't get near a ring with Bika). Moreover, Bute has beat two top ten super middleweights - Ward and Kessler have each only beat one.

And Ward? Kessler had a better resume than Ward going into the fight. Ward has beat Kessler and Miranda, but other than that he has beat NO ONE of note. Bute has a much better all-around resume than Ward.

Now, I dislike the guy a lot for his pompous attitude, but Froch may have the best resume at SMW with wins over the current lhw champion, Pascal, former middleweight champion, Taylor, and former Olympian, Dirrell.

Based on Resume alone, not taking into account potential ability, the list should probably look like:

1. Froch
2. Bute
3. Ward
4. Kessler
5. Abraham
6. Bika

Oh, and Bute would absolutely destroy Froch. I'd favor him in a fight with anyone on that list other than maybe Ward unless the fight was in Montreal and Marlon was reffing.

[HattonTheHammer]

Ward beat Kessler who supposedly was the man in the division, but really what has Kessler done? I like Kessler and think he should destroy Froch, but his loss to Calzaghe for some reason made him famous. Don't forget Kessler's best wins were Mundine and Andrade. Bute's wins over Bika and Andrade (twice and once by knockout, being the first to stop him) are just as good in terms of the level of fighter (Mundine won't get near a ring with Bika). Moreover, Bute has beat two top ten super middleweights - Ward and Kessler have each only beat one.

And Ward? Kessler had a better resume than Ward going into the fight. Ward has beat Kessler and Miranda, but other than that he has beat NO ONE of note. Bute has a much better all-around resume than Ward.

Now, I dislike the guy a lot for his pompous attitude, but Froch may have the best resume at SMW with wins over the current lhw champion, Pascal, former middleweight champion, Taylor, and former Olympian, Dirrell.

Based on Resume alone, not taking into account potential ability, the list should probably look like:

1. Froch
2. Bute
3. Ward
4. Kessler
5. Abraham
6. Bika

Oh, and Bute would absolutely destroy Froch. I'd favor him in a fight with anyone on that list other than maybe Ward unless the fight was in Montreal and Marlon was reffing.

Never

Dirrell beats ward if they ever fight...froch would just own the pair of them!

[ICB]

Ward beat Kessler who supposedly was the man in the division, but really what has Kessler done? I like Kessler and think he should destroy Froch, but his loss to Calzaghe for some reason made him famous. Don't forget Kessler's best wins were Mundine and Andrade. Bute's wins over Bika and Andrade (twice and once by knockout, being the first to stop him) are just as good in terms of the level of fighter (Mundine won't get near a ring with Bika). Moreover, Bute has beat two top ten super middleweights - Ward and Kessler have each only beat one.

And Ward? Kessler had a better resume than Ward going into the fight. Ward has beat Kessler and Miranda, but other than that he has beat NO ONE of note. Bute has a much better all-around resume than Ward.

Now, I dislike the guy a lot for his pompous attitude, but Froch may have the best resume at SMW with wins over the current lhw champion, Pascal, former middleweight champion, Taylor, and former Olympian, Dirrell.

Based on Resume alone, not taking into account potential ability, the list should probably look like:

1. Froch
2. Bute
3. Ward
4. Kessler
5. Abraham
6. Bika

Oh, and Bute would absolutely destroy Froch. I'd favor him in a fight with anyone on that list other than maybe Ward unless the fight was in Montreal and Marlon was reffing.

Never

Dirrell beats ward if they ever fight...froch would just own the pair of them!

I don't think so Carl Froch was hurt by Andre Dirrell, Jermain Taylor. Both only noted as modest punchers, Lucian Bute hits much harder and would lay Carl Froch out, his defense is absolute garbage.

Carl Froch in his last 3 fights has been lucky, he just about won vs Jean Pascal. Scored a miracle come from behind KO against a fighter thats like Zab Judah, he can fight well for 1 half of a fight.

Then tires late on and always has, he even got tired late in the slowest paced Middleweight fight in history vs Bernard Hopkins. And was gifted a decision against Andre Dirrell that he certainly lost, i have no idea why your so high on Carl Froch. Im English but lets just face facts, he will lose in the very near future.

He reminds me of Junior Witter, always calling out Joe Calzaghe despite hardly doing shit. I admit he's achieved more but its no different IMO.

[HattonTheHammer]

Ward beat Kessler who supposedly was the man in the division, but really what has Kessler done? I like Kessler and think he should destroy Froch, but his loss to Calzaghe for some reason made him famous. Don't forget Kessler's best wins were Mundine and Andrade. Bute's wins over Bika and Andrade (twice and once by knockout, being the first to stop him) are just as good in terms of the level of fighter (Mundine won't get near a ring with Bika). Moreover, Bute has beat two top ten super middleweights - Ward and Kessler have each only beat one.

And Ward? Kessler had a better resume than Ward going into the fight. Ward has beat Kessler and Miranda, but other than that he has beat NO ONE of note. Bute has a much better all-around resume than Ward.

Now, I dislike the guy a lot for his pompous attitude, but Froch may have the best resume at SMW with wins over the current lhw champion, Pascal, former middleweight champion, Taylor, and former Olympian, Dirrell.

Based on Resume alone, not taking into account potential ability, the list should probably look like:

1. Froch
2. Bute
3. Ward
4. Kessler
5. Abraham
6. Bika

Oh, and Bute would absolutely destroy Froch. I'd favor him in a fight with anyone on that list other than maybe Ward unless the fight was in Montreal and Marlon was reffing.

Never

Dirrell beats ward if they ever fight...froch would just own the pair of them!

I don't think so Carl Froch was hurt by Andre Dirrell, Jermain Taylor. Both only noted as modest punchers, Lucian Bute hits much harder and would lay Carl Froch out, his defense is absolute garbage.

Carl Froch in his last 3 fights has been lucky, he just about won vs Jean Pascal. Scored a miracle come from behind KO against a fighter thats like Zab Judah, he can fight well for 1 half of a fight.

Then tires late on and always has, he even got tired late in the slowest paced Middleweight fight in history vs Bernard Hopkins. And was gifted a decision against Andre Dirrell that he certainly lost, i have no idea why your so high on Carl Froch. Im English but lets just face facts, he will lose in the very near future.

He reminds me of Junior Witter, always calling out Joe Calzaghe despite hardly doing shit. I admit he's achieved more but its no different IMO.

Joe calzaghe was hurt by sharmba mitchell..dawson was hurt by adamek

Dont mean they still arent great fighters. Ive seen more than enough of bute to suggest he`s a poor mans abraham and would get laid out the second he got in with quality opposition

[Tysonbruno]

Never

Dirrell beats ward if they ever fight...froch would just own the pair of them!

I don't think so Carl Froch was hurt by Andre Dirrell, Jermain Taylor. Both only noted as modest punchers, Lucian Bute hits much harder and would lay Carl Froch out, his defense is absolute garbage.

Carl Froch in his last 3 fights has been lucky, he just about won vs Jean Pascal. Scored a miracle come from behind KO against a fighter thats like Zab Judah, he can fight well for 1 half of a fight.

Then tires late on and always has, he even got tired late in the slowest paced Middleweight fight in history vs Bernard Hopkins. And was gifted a decision against Andre Dirrell that he certainly lost, i have no idea why your so high on Carl Froch. Im English but lets just face facts, he will lose in the very near future.

He reminds me of Junior Witter, always calling out Joe Calzaghe despite hardly doing shit. I admit he's achieved more but its no different IMO.

Joe calzaghe was hurt by sharmba mitchell..dawson was hurt by adamek

Dont mean they still arent great fighters. Ive seen more than enough of bute to suggest he`s a poor mans abraham and would get laid out the second he got in with quality opposition

Byron Mitchell mate lol

[skel1983]

Never

Dirrell beats ward if they ever fight...froch would just own the pair of them!

I don't think so Carl Froch was hurt by Andre Dirrell, Jermain Taylor. Both only noted as modest punchers, Lucian Bute hits much harder and would lay Carl Froch out, his defense is absolute garbage.

Carl Froch in his last 3 fights has been lucky, he just about won vs Jean Pascal. Scored a miracle come from behind KO against a fighter thats like Zab Judah, he can fight well for 1 half of a fight.

Then tires late on and always has, he even got tired late in the slowest paced Middleweight fight in history vs Bernard Hopkins. And was gifted a decision against Andre Dirrell that he certainly lost, i have no idea why your so high on Carl Froch. Im English but lets just face facts, he will lose in the very near future.

He reminds me of Junior Witter, always calling out Joe Calzaghe despite hardly doing shit. I admit he's achieved more but its no different IMO.

Joe calzaghe was hurt by sharmba mitchell..dawson was hurt by adamek

Dont mean they still arent great fighters. Ive seen more than enough of bute to suggest he`s a poor mans abraham and would get laid out the second he got in with quality opposition

Poor mans Abraham I dont understand what you mean there mate he fights nothing like Abraham, Bute and Ward are all wrong for Froch they would make him look bad imo.

[CFH]

Never

Dirrell beats ward if they ever fight...froch would just own the pair of them!

I don't think so Carl Froch was hurt by Andre Dirrell, Jermain Taylor. Both only noted as modest punchers, Lucian Bute hits much harder and would lay Carl Froch out, his defense is absolute garbage.

Carl Froch in his last 3 fights has been lucky, he just about won vs Jean Pascal. Scored a miracle come from behind KO against a fighter thats like Zab Judah, he can fight well for 1 half of a fight.

Then tires late on and always has, he even got tired late in the slowest paced Middleweight fight in history vs Bernard Hopkins. And was gifted a decision against Andre Dirrell that he certainly lost, i have no idea why your so high on Carl Froch. Im English but lets just face facts, he will lose in the very near future.

He reminds me of Junior Witter, always calling out Joe Calzaghe despite hardly doing shit. I admit he's achieved more but its no different IMO.

Joe calzaghe was hurt by sharmba mitchell..dawson was hurt by adamek

Dont mean they still arent great fighters. Ive seen more than enough of bute to suggest he`s a poor mans abraham and would get laid out the second he got in with quality opposition

[ICB]

Never

Dirrell beats ward if they ever fight...froch would just own the pair of them!

I don't think so Carl Froch was hurt by Andre Dirrell, Jermain Taylor. Both only noted as modest punchers, Lucian Bute hits much harder and would lay Carl Froch out, his defense is absolute garbage.

Carl Froch in his last 3 fights has been lucky, he just about won vs Jean Pascal. Scored a miracle come from behind KO against a fighter thats like Zab Judah, he can fight well for 1 half of a fight.

Then tires late on and always has, he even got tired late in the slowest paced Middleweight fight in history vs Bernard Hopkins. And was gifted a decision against Andre Dirrell that he certainly lost, i have no idea why your so high on Carl Froch. Im English but lets just face facts, he will lose in the very near future.

He reminds me of Junior Witter, always calling out Joe Calzaghe despite hardly doing shit. I admit he's achieved more but its no different IMO.

Joe calzaghe was hurt by sharmba mitchell..dawson was hurt by adamek

Dont mean they still arent great fighters. Ive seen more than enough of bute to suggest he`s a poor mans abraham and would get laid out the second he got in with quality opposition

Tomasz Adamek is a very big puncher, and managed to move up two weightclasses and stop a Heavyweight. The difference is that those 2 fighters you mentioned aka Chad Dawson, Joe Calzaghe, can adapt to situations. Because of how good they are.

What can Carl Froch do ? he has no defense, no boxing skills. And his punch technique at times is amateurish.

As for Lucian Bute being a poor mans Arthur Abraham ? what the hell ? there as about as different as you could get. I think a better comparison would be that Lucian Bute is similar to Joe Calzaghe, although not quite as good. But he does have more power than Joe Calzaghe.

[Nameless]

ridiculous

kessler, froch, abraham, ward and dirrell all beat bute on their day

What stinks is that we wont truly now how good bute is for another couple of years having to wait for the super6 to reach its conclusion.

2 sets of matches, plus semis and a grand final means that bute may not get a shot at froch or abraham for another 2 and a half years with by then both probably deciding to call it a day anyway

I think that you never have seen Bute fight properly to imagine that Froch, Kessler, Abraham, Ward and Dirrell all beat him single handed. He's way stronger physically than Dirrell and as fast if not faster plus he's an evil southpaw, Froch is not fast enough to have a real chance against him. KEssler... well, I want to see how he bounces back before making any predictions but now I think Bute could get him too. Abraham is a brick of wall but doesn't move much, which could give lucian some good shots at him (not saying he,ll beat him but he has the potential to). WArd is very fast and seems on a mission, that would be at this very moment the hardest pick but still, even if Ward would won, I don't think it would be a sole pleasure thing.