Bute Now Ranked #1 in the World

[Rantcatrat]

Yep and I still agree with you regarding Bute winning the fight. I have no problem that he won that fight.

It still doesn't take away the fact that he was within seconds of being knocked out and was completely saved by the bell however. That's why he had to rematch Andrade, because he came so close to being sparked unconcious the first time around!

It's insane to have a guy rated at number 1, who was virtually ko'd by a guy who the previous number 1 dominated for 12 rounds with ease.

Yes he won the rematch impressively but when has Carl Froch, for all his limitations ever looked as bad as Bute did in that 12th round?

Wins over Jermain Taylor, Andre Dirrell and Jean Pascal eclipse any win in Lucian Bute's career.

I find it somewhat laughable that you are trying to big up his wins over Kabery Salem and Sakio Bika when you would criticise Calzaghe for even fighting such soft opposition.

Sure he didn't get floored by Salem like Calzaghe did, but Calzaghe was never left floundering in the corner at the end of the 12th round of a fight, completely out on his feet and only saved by an extra long count was he?

It isn't as crazy as you make it sound. How many top ten smw's has Ward or Kessler beat? 1 each. How many top ten smw's has Bute beat? 2.

Bute won all ten rounds before losing the last two rounds and then given the doubt surrounding the win, he took a rematch with Andrade, and knocked him out, completely sparked him, something the #1 guy couldn't do.

I agree with Froch's wins, his resume is probably better than Bute's at this point, the only thing going against Froch is that his competition up until the Taylor fight was abysmal.

You didn't respond to my post earlier regarding Bute's best wins being better than Kessler's or at least as good.

Bute and Kessler have both beat more than 2 and 1 top ten fighers.

Bute

Bika
Berrio
Andrade


Kessler

Andrade
Beyer
Mundine
Siaca

Ward beat the number 1 so thats why he now is the number 1 imo.

Fair enough. What I meant was of current top ten super middleweights or top ten super middleweights of the last two years, Bute has wins over two and Kessler has wins over one. Kessler's position as number one never sat well with me because he lost his last major fight and only had the number one position because he lost it to a great in Calzaghe. When you look closer at his record, however, Kessler's resume isn't any better, and probably worse, than Bute's.

[Kev]

It isn't as crazy as you make it sound. How many top ten smw's has Ward or Kessler beat? 1 each. How many top ten smw's has Bute beat? 2.

Bute won all ten rounds before losing the last two rounds and then given the doubt surrounding the win, he took a rematch with Andrade, and knocked him out, completely sparked him, something the #1 guy couldn't do.

I agree with Froch's wins, his resume is probably better than Bute's at this point, the only thing going against Froch is that his competition up until the Taylor fight was abysmal.

You didn't respond to my post earlier regarding Bute's best wins being better than Kessler's or at least as good.

Bute and Kessler have both beat more than 2 and 1 top ten fighers.

Bute

Bika
Berrio
Andrade


Kessler

Andrade
Beyer
Mundine
Siaca

Ward beat the number 1 so thats why he now is the number 1 imo.

Fair enough. What I meant was of current top ten super middleweights or top ten super middleweights of the last two years, Bute has wins over two and Kessler has wins over one. Kessler's position as number one never sat well with me because he lost his last major fight and only had the number one position because he lost it to a great in Calzaghe. When you look closer at his record, however, Kessler's resume isn't any better, and probably worse, than Bute's.

Sorry but that is ridiculous. Guys like Mundine, Beyer and Andrade were top 10, in fact top 3 or 4 but Kessler beat them all hence them not being in the top 10.

Bute has beaten Andrade, and that's it.

Bika, Joppy, Berrio etc are all behind wins over Mundine, Beyer, Dirrell, Pascal and Taylor.

Bute should be number three behind Ward at one, then Froch.

It's not even a debate in my mind. The only way one can make a case for Bute is if they go on pure subjectivity and say they felt Froch lost to Dirrell, and that Bute is better than Froch.

Ratings should be based on results and acomplishments not predictions and guesses.

As it stands, 1. Ward 2. Froch 3. Bute