Will Khan be able to handle Marquez?

[ono]

Maybe in a year.

[skel1983]

At 140 I think he has a good chance, styles make fights and I think with Khan's skills and a gemplan he follows I think he has everychance of beating Marquez, much better chance than Hatton has of beating Marquez.

[Cressa121]

I think a fight with JMM would be too soon if it were his next fight. He needs to get in with a top 10 contender that can bang. Maybe late 2010 Khan will be able to take him, but not in his next fight

[Andre]

At 140 I think he has a good chance, styles make fights and I think with Khan's skills and a gemplan he follows I think he has everychance of beating Marquez, much better chance than Hatton has of beating Marquez.

I agree with you on those points.

[KananKrus]

I think Amir is too big for Juan, and simply put, this fight will be bad for JMM, simply because of the disparity in size.

Skill wise, it is an easy technical fight for Khan provided his chin does not get exposed. The combined factors of size with speed is too much of an advantage, that I am afraid, regardless of how great Juan Manuel's overall skill surely is, it is not within by its' means to overcome it.

However if anyone can expose 'em weak chin of Amir, surely, Juan's precision laser counters are more than up for that task. So JMM has a chance a much greater against Amir's, than to that which he had at fight night against "a PBF" in his last outing.

Lastly, the poise in Amir Khan's game as of late, distinctly upgraded since he came over to Roach's tutelage, will need futher reinforcement as bouts with future HOF require.


There will be fireworks for sure, a good fight overall.

Khan will possibly come away with a UD win, and only JMM's ring savvy prevents an abbreviated result for the young man from Bolton.

[gudnite vienna]

I think Amir is too big for Juan, and simply put, this fight will be bad for JMM, simply because of the disparity in size.

Skill wise, it is an easy technical fight for Khan provided his chin does not get exposed. The combined factors of size with speed is too much of an advantage, that I am afraid, regardless of how great Juan Manuel's overall skill surely is, it is not within by its' means to overcome it.

However if anyone can expose 'em weak chin of Amir, surely, Juan's precision laser counters are more than up for that task. So JMM has a chance a much greater against Amir's, than to that which he had at fight night against "a PBF" in his last outing.

Lastly, the poise in Amir Khan's game as of late, distinctly upgraded since he came over to Roach's tutelage, will need futher reinforcement as bouts with future HOF require.


There will be fireworks for sure, a good fight overall.

Khan will possibly come away with a UD win, and only JMM's ring savvy prevents an abbreviated result for the young man from Bolton.

couldnt agree more..

[Kev]

Amazing turnaround. I posted in March of this year that Amir could be capable of taking on Juan Manuel Marquez in around a year or so's time and nobody agreed.

Now it seem momentum is swinging his way.

I don't think he needs Marquez just yet. He needs at least one solid, world level opponent first to give him that experience, and also the inner confidence needed.

My guess is that if he beats his March opponent on the Pacquaio Floyd undercard and looks good he may well get one summer fight in before a big showdown with Marquez this time next year.

He could well go into that fight the bookies favourite.

[skel1983]

Amazing turnaround. I posted in March of this year that Amir could be capable of taking on Juan Manuel Marquez in around a year or so's time and nobody agreed.

Now it seem momentum is swinging his way.

I don't think he needs Marquez just yet. He needs at least one solid, world level opponent first to give him that experience, and also the inner confidence needed.

My guess is that if he beats his March opponent on the Pacquaio Floyd undercard and looks good he may well get one summer fight in before a big showdown with Marquez this time next year.

He could well go into that fight the bookies favourite.

To be fair though mate at the time Khan was still at 135 and Marquez had just blasted out Diaz now Khan seems to be bigger and stronger at 140 and Marquez looked a bit soft and way above his natural weight at 145, I think at 135 Marquez wins.

But I suppose what has happened recently and the progress Khan has made with Roach makes it very possible Khan can use his physical advantages to win this fight.

I think it could well happen especially if Marquez fights Hatton which I think he wins it would make sense to make the fight.

[amat]

I still think no. Possibly if he was able to stay on the outside like he did Kotelnik and hope Marquez was able to fight out on the outside but to me he is still raw and unpolished. He still has been caught and I'm just not sure he's disciplined enough to bang with someone like Marquez. I don't think just because he got 12-0'd by the best pure boxer on the planet that Marquez loses. He's still one of the games top counter punchers and I'm not sure Khan is ready for a surgeon like Marquez. Just youth and athleticism isn't going to get him by and I'm not sold on any of these huge changes of his.

[jamiebhoy]

Amazing turnaround. I posted in March of this year that Amir could be capable of taking on Juan Manuel Marquez in around a year or so's time and nobody agreed.

Now it seem momentum is swinging his way.

I don't think he needs Marquez just yet. He needs at least one solid, world level opponent first to give him that experience, and also the inner confidence needed.

My guess is that if he beats his March opponent on the Pacquaio Floyd undercard and looks good he may well get one summer fight in before a big showdown with Marquez this time next year.

He could well go into that fight the bookies favourite.

I have been agreeing with Bilbo over Khan, I reckon that the KO was something he should not be solely judged on, I am not convinced it proves him Chiny. The Kid had a great work rate which alone can trouble a lot of people, and if he does fight JMM or Hatton down the line his style could be too much,I reckon that's why he is in the camp he's in, does have some things in common with Pac in terms of speed and volume of work.

Ignoring the fact he can be a cock sometimes then I like him for moving on and proving people wrong.

[ICB]

I think Amir is too big for Juan, and simply put, this fight will be bad for JMM, simply because of the disparity in size.

Skill wise, it is an easy technical fight for Khan provided his chin does not get exposed. The combined factors of size with speed is too much of an advantage, that I am afraid, regardless of how great Juan Manuel's overall skill surely is, it is not within by its' means to overcome it.

However if anyone can expose 'em weak chin of Amir, surely, Juan's precision laser counters are more than up for that task. So JMM has a chance a much greater against Amir's, than to that which he had at fight night against "a PBF" in his last outing.

Lastly, the poise in Amir Khan's game as of late, distinctly upgraded since he came over to Roach's tutelage, will need futher reinforcement as bouts with future HOF require.


There will be fireworks for sure, a good fight overall.

Khan will possibly come away with a UD win, and only JMM's ring savvy prevents an abbreviated result for the young man from Bolton.

Are you kidding me ? an easy technical fight for Amir Khan ? JMM is far more technically skilled than Amir Khan, as for speed ? well didn't he deal well with a faster fighter in Manny Pacquiao ? who hits harder and is alot better than Amir Khan ? or what about Joel Casamayor ?

Bilbo talks about overrated fighters like Lucian Bute, well atleast he's beaten some good opposition, who the hell has Amir Khan beaten that leads anyone to believe Amir Khan is ready for someone like JMM ? even at 140.

Not that long ago Amir Khan was getting dropped, by domestic level fighters and was also brutally KO'ed, by a fighter with pretty much no skill. Amir Khan has beaten not one good/live opponent, he's also ever only fought one puncher whom destroyed him.

Now im not saying that Amir Khan hasn't got skill, but come on im a bit sick of seeing, well Amir Khan has dramatically improved since being Freddie Roach, that is total BS how the hell can anyone tell anything really ?

Because he beat Andriy Kotelnik, the most mediocre title holder in modern day history ? and even he went the distance winning 4 rounds, and clocking Amir Khan quite a few times late on, even with Amir Khan's supposedly improved "defense".

Now just imagine if that was someone like JMM catching him, or any of the other punchers at 140. Lets actually wait and see Amir Khan beat someone who can punch, or atleast someone who's known.

Im sorry Bilbo i've listened to your reasoning, but to me your just totally biased. As hitman said a few days ago you take anything Amir Khan says with a pinch of salt, yet a fighter you dislike for example David Haye, you never miss a chance to hate on him.

Whenever he says anything but yet you don't take that with a pinch of salt, in all honesty i think Amir Khan's up his own ass. His talented no one i don't think has ever denied that.

But im sorry he has come out with some total crap, and he hasn't even beaten one elite fighter yet. And again im not saying he's not capable of it, but lets actually wait and see if he can do it.

Rather than overrating him which you clearly are, despite saying you don't but you clearly do. Why not fight the winner of the Timothy Bradley fight, or fight a puncher like Marcos Rene Maidana to prove he can beat a puncher, why fight a fighter who's clearly undersized at 140.

Even though i think JMM beats Amir Khan. And is x2 the fighter he will ever be. Why don't he beat an elite/prime 140 fighter then people might not stop hating on him, and might start respecting him.

And one last thing you can't improve a weak chin, and i don't believe it has anything to do with the weight either. He's had a weak chin since the Amateur's.

[The Fightfan]

I think Amir is too big for Juan, and simply put, this fight will be bad for JMM, simply because of the disparity in size.

Skill wise, it is an easy technical fight for Khan provided his chin does not get exposed. The combined factors of size with speed is too much of an advantage, that I am afraid, regardless of how great Juan Manuel's overall skill surely is, it is not within by its' means to overcome it.

However if anyone can expose 'em weak chin of Amir, surely, Juan's precision laser counters are more than up for that task. So JMM has a chance a much greater against Amir's, than to that which he had at fight night against "a PBF" in his last outing.

Lastly, the poise in Amir Khan's game as of late, distinctly upgraded since he came over to Roach's tutelage, will need futher reinforcement as bouts with future HOF require.


There will be fireworks for sure, a good fight overall.

Khan will possibly come away with a UD win, and only JMM's ring savvy prevents an abbreviated result for the young man from Bolton.

Are you kidding me ? an easy technical fight for Amir Khan ? JMM is far more technically skilled than Amir Khan, as for speed ? well didn't he deal well with a faster fighter in Manny Pacquiao ? who hits harder and is alot better than Amir Khan ? or what about Joel Casamayor ?

Bilbo talks about overrated fighters like Lucian Bute, well atleast he's beaten some good opposition, who the hell has Amir Khan beaten that leads anyone to believe Amir Khan is ready for someone like JMM ? even at 140.

Not that long ago Amir Khan was getting dropped, by domestic level fighters and was also brutally KO'ed, by a fighter with pretty much no skill. Amir Khan has beaten not one good/live opponent, he's also ever only fought one puncher whom destroyed him.

Now im not saying that Amir Khan hasn't got skill, but come on im a bit sick of seeing, well Amir Khan has dramatically improved since being Freddie Roach, that is total BS how the hell can anyone tell anything really ?

Because he beat Andriy Kotelnik, the most mediocre title holder in modern day history ? and even he went the distance winning 4 rounds, and clocking Amir Khan quite a few times late on, even with Amir Khan's supposedly improved "defense".

Now just imagine if that was someone like JMM catching him, or any of the other punchers at 140. Lets actually wait and see Amir Khan beat someone who can punch, or atleast someone who's known.

Im sorry Bilbo i've listened to your reasoning, but to me your just totally biased. As hitman said a few days ago you take anything Amir Khan says with a pinch of salt, yet a fighter you dislike for example David Haye, you never miss a chance to hate on him.

Whenever he says anything but yet you don't take that with a pinch of salt, in all honesty i think Amir Khan's up his own ass. His talented no one i don't think has ever denied that.

But im sorry he has come out with some total crap, and he hasn't even beaten one elite fighter yet. And again im not saying he's not capable of it, but lets actually wait and see if he can do it.

Rather than overrating him which you clearly are, despite saying you don't but you clearly do. Why not fight the winner of the Timothy Bradley fight, or fight a puncher like Marcos Rene Maidana to prove he can beat a puncher, why fight a fighter who's clearly undersized at 140.

Even though i think JMM beats Amir Khan. And is x2 the fighter he will ever be. Why don't he beat an elite/prime 140 fighter then people might not stop hating on him, and might start respecting him.

And one last thing you can't improve a weak chin, and i don't believe it has anything to do with the weight either. He's had a weak chin since the Amateur's.

Couldn't have agreed more. It doesn't really matter if Khan has improved ten fold he still has a very suspect chin and Marquez is not the guy you want to test it again with. Especially with Marquez's countering abilities.

[Pugilistic]

Some people are seriously underating Marquez since his loss to Mayweather if they think Khan can beat him.

Marquez was outclassed by Mayweather who was naturally bigger, faster, stronger and........better.

Khan is nothing like Floyd expect in the speed department.

Khan has improved over his last four fights but has he improved enough to deal with someone of Marquez's skill level ? hell no imo.

Marquez has proved he can deal with fighters faster and naturally bigger than him (Pacquiao) so why would he have trouble with Khan who is a level or two below Pacquiao ?

Marquez stops Khan imo.

[ono]

Because he beat Andriy Kotelnik, the most mediocre title holder in modern day history ? and even he went the distance winning 4 rounds, and clocking Amir Khan quite a few times late on, even with Amir Khan's supposedly improved "defense".

See, this is what annoys me, and it's not just you who does it, but...

This is what you said before the fight...

"I think Andriy Kotelnik may have the experience and toughness, to maybe drag Amir Khan into deep waters and maybe stop him late on. In the MAB fight i still see the same flaws in Amir Khan."

and this is what you said during the fight...

"But Andriy Kotelnik is no mug either, he's a solid opponent with a decent boxing brain. I didn't think he would get caught with much silly punches. Overall a decent win for Amir Khan."

This is exactly why i don't think he'd get credit for beating the likes of Maidana, Holt, Paulie, D-Hop etc...

It's too easy to use hindsight. If you think a fighter is going to lose a fight and he wins, you should give him credit for it.

I can see it now...If he beats Maidana it's because Maidana is slow and sloppy (which ICB has already said), If he beats Holt, then it's no big deal because Holt hasn't really beaten anyone of note. If he beats Paulie, he'll get stick for not fighting a puncher. He can't win, and it's been like that pretty much since he turned pro, on here.

[ICB]

Because he beat Andriy Kotelnik, the most mediocre title holder in modern day history ? and even he went the distance winning 4 rounds, and clocking Amir Khan quite a few times late on, even with Amir Khan's supposedly improved "defense".

See, this is what annoys me, and it's not just you who does it, but...

This is what you said before the fight...

"I think Andriy Kotelnik may have the experience and toughness, to maybe drag Amir Khan into deep waters and maybe stop him late on. In the MAB fight i still see the same flaws in Amir Khan."

and this is what you said during the fight...

"But Andriy Kotelnik is no mug either, he's a solid opponent with a decent boxing brain. I didn't think he would get caught with much silly punches. Overall a decent win for Amir Khan."

This is exactly why i don't think he'd get credit for beating the likes of Maidana, Holt, Paulie, D-Hop etc...

It's too easy to use hindsight. If you think a fighter is going to lose a fight and he wins, you should give him credit for it.

I can see it now...If he beats Maidana it's because Maidana is slow and sloppy (which ICB has already said), If he beats Holt, then it's no big deal because Holt hasn't really beaten anyone of note. If he beats Paulie, he'll get stick for not fighting a puncher. He can't win, and it's been like that pretty much since he turned pro, on here.

This was just after the Breidis Prescott fight, and not long after he was getting dropped by fighters like Michael Gomez. So yes i wasn't sure how Amir Khan would react.

And as i said it was a decent win for Amir Khan, im suprised you went back that long. And tried to disprove me yet you missed the thread, where i gave Amir Khan credit for the win just after the fight.

I've never said Andriy Kotelnik is a bad fighter, i do think he is pretty mediocre. He's a decent boxer as i've always said, but he is pretty basic and mediocre.

And he doesn't do any one thing that well, and my prediction wasn't too far off. He did drag Amir Khan into deep waters in the later rounds, and did catch Amir Khan late on. But Amir Khan was able to be cautious enough to survive some hairy moments late on. And Andriy Kotelnik did hit hard enough which pretty much sums it up.

Because at that time no one really knew of Amir Khan's improved defense, as you said its easy to say this and that with hindsight. Just like its easy for you too pull old comments from my posts, but i don't think i've said anything different have i ?

I've always said Andriy Kotelnik is decent, but again he is pretty much one of the worst title holders in modern history. But i've said it was a decent win for Amir Khan and thats it, decent now its time to move on and see if he can beat some of the big boys.

He needs to beat a puncher for a start, he's only ever fought 1 opponent who can punch and he was layed out. Or he needs to fight an American fighter with a name, someone like Devon Alexander or Timothy Bradley would be good wins for him.