Will Khan be able to handle Marquez?

[KananKrus]

I think Amir is too big for Juan, and simply put, this fight will be bad for JMM, simply because of the disparity in size.

Skill wise, it is an easy technical fight for Khan provided his chin does not get exposed. The combined factors of size with speed is too much of an advantage, that I am afraid, regardless of how great Juan Manuel's overall skill surely is, it is not within by its' means to overcome it.

However if anyone can expose 'em weak chin of Amir, surely, Juan's precision laser counters are more than up for that task. So JMM has a chance a much greater against Amir's, than to that which he had at fight night against "a PBF" in his last outing.

Lastly, the poise in Amir Khan's game as of late, distinctly upgraded since he came over to Roach's tutelage, will need futher reinforcement as bouts with future HOF require.


There will be fireworks for sure, a good fight overall.

Khan will possibly come away with a UD win, and only JMM's ring savvy prevents an abbreviated result for the young man from Bolton.

[gudnite vienna]

I think Amir is too big for Juan, and simply put, this fight will be bad for JMM, simply because of the disparity in size.

Skill wise, it is an easy technical fight for Khan provided his chin does not get exposed. The combined factors of size with speed is too much of an advantage, that I am afraid, regardless of how great Juan Manuel's overall skill surely is, it is not within by its' means to overcome it.

However if anyone can expose 'em weak chin of Amir, surely, Juan's precision laser counters are more than up for that task. So JMM has a chance a much greater against Amir's, than to that which he had at fight night against "a PBF" in his last outing.

Lastly, the poise in Amir Khan's game as of late, distinctly upgraded since he came over to Roach's tutelage, will need futher reinforcement as bouts with future HOF require.


There will be fireworks for sure, a good fight overall.

Khan will possibly come away with a UD win, and only JMM's ring savvy prevents an abbreviated result for the young man from Bolton.

couldnt agree more..

[Kev]

Amazing turnaround. I posted in March of this year that Amir could be capable of taking on Juan Manuel Marquez in around a year or so's time and nobody agreed.

Now it seem momentum is swinging his way.

I don't think he needs Marquez just yet. He needs at least one solid, world level opponent first to give him that experience, and also the inner confidence needed.

My guess is that if he beats his March opponent on the Pacquaio Floyd undercard and looks good he may well get one summer fight in before a big showdown with Marquez this time next year.

He could well go into that fight the bookies favourite.

[skel1983]

Amazing turnaround. I posted in March of this year that Amir could be capable of taking on Juan Manuel Marquez in around a year or so's time and nobody agreed.

Now it seem momentum is swinging his way.

I don't think he needs Marquez just yet. He needs at least one solid, world level opponent first to give him that experience, and also the inner confidence needed.

My guess is that if he beats his March opponent on the Pacquaio Floyd undercard and looks good he may well get one summer fight in before a big showdown with Marquez this time next year.

He could well go into that fight the bookies favourite.

To be fair though mate at the time Khan was still at 135 and Marquez had just blasted out Diaz now Khan seems to be bigger and stronger at 140 and Marquez looked a bit soft and way above his natural weight at 145, I think at 135 Marquez wins.

But I suppose what has happened recently and the progress Khan has made with Roach makes it very possible Khan can use his physical advantages to win this fight.

I think it could well happen especially if Marquez fights Hatton which I think he wins it would make sense to make the fight.

[Kev]

Amazing turnaround. I posted in March of this year that Amir could be capable of taking on Juan Manuel Marquez in around a year or so's time and nobody agreed.

Now it seem momentum is swinging his way.

I don't think he needs Marquez just yet. He needs at least one solid, world level opponent first to give him that experience, and also the inner confidence needed.

My guess is that if he beats his March opponent on the Pacquaio Floyd undercard and looks good he may well get one summer fight in before a big showdown with Marquez this time next year.

He could well go into that fight the bookies favourite.

To be fair though mate at the time Khan was still at 135 and Marquez had just blasted out Diaz now Khan seems to be bigger and stronger at 140 and Marquez looked a bit soft and way above his natural weight at 145, I think at 135 Marquez wins.

But I suppose what has happened recently and the progress Khan has made with Roach makes it very possible Khan can use his physical advantages to win this fight.

I think it could well happen especially if Marquez fights Hatton which I think he wins it would make sense to make the fight.

Exactly, which is why I should have more respect on these boards. Bilbo knows the truth. I told them all Mijares was overrated and about to be exposed, he was exposed. I'm saying the same about Nonito Donaire now, along with Lucian Bute.

Khan will be better than them all.

[Mattyhitman]

Amazing turnaround. I posted in March of this year that Amir could be capable of taking on Juan Manuel Marquez in around a year or so's time and nobody agreed.

Now it seem momentum is swinging his way.

I don't think he needs Marquez just yet. He needs at least one solid, world level opponent first to give him that experience, and also the inner confidence needed.

My guess is that if he beats his March opponent on the Pacquaio Floyd undercard and looks good he may well get one summer fight in before a big showdown with Marquez this time next year.

He could well go into that fight the bookies favourite.

To be fair though mate at the time Khan was still at 135 and Marquez had just blasted out Diaz now Khan seems to be bigger and stronger at 140 and Marquez looked a bit soft and way above his natural weight at 145, I think at 135 Marquez wins.

But I suppose what has happened recently and the progress Khan has made with Roach makes it very possible Khan can use his physical advantages to win this fight.

I think it could well happen especially if Marquez fights Hatton which I think he wins it would make sense to make the fight.

Agreeing with ya skel1983,

Khan beats JMM for me at 140, but i also think Hatton beats JMM at 140, guess the question is does Khan beat Hatton at 140, personally as a Hatton fan it's not a fight i would want him to take, IMHO Khan beats Hatton.

[amat]

I still think no. Possibly if he was able to stay on the outside like he did Kotelnik and hope Marquez was able to fight out on the outside but to me he is still raw and unpolished. He still has been caught and I'm just not sure he's disciplined enough to bang with someone like Marquez. I don't think just because he got 12-0'd by the best pure boxer on the planet that Marquez loses. He's still one of the games top counter punchers and I'm not sure Khan is ready for a surgeon like Marquez. Just youth and athleticism isn't going to get him by and I'm not sold on any of these huge changes of his.

[jamiebhoy]

Amazing turnaround. I posted in March of this year that Amir could be capable of taking on Juan Manuel Marquez in around a year or so's time and nobody agreed.

Now it seem momentum is swinging his way.

I don't think he needs Marquez just yet. He needs at least one solid, world level opponent first to give him that experience, and also the inner confidence needed.

My guess is that if he beats his March opponent on the Pacquaio Floyd undercard and looks good he may well get one summer fight in before a big showdown with Marquez this time next year.

He could well go into that fight the bookies favourite.

I have been agreeing with Bilbo over Khan, I reckon that the KO was something he should not be solely judged on, I am not convinced it proves him Chiny. The Kid had a great work rate which alone can trouble a lot of people, and if he does fight JMM or Hatton down the line his style could be too much,I reckon that's why he is in the camp he's in, does have some things in common with Pac in terms of speed and volume of work.

Ignoring the fact he can be a cock sometimes then I like him for moving on and proving people wrong.

[ICB]

I think Amir is too big for Juan, and simply put, this fight will be bad for JMM, simply because of the disparity in size.

Skill wise, it is an easy technical fight for Khan provided his chin does not get exposed. The combined factors of size with speed is too much of an advantage, that I am afraid, regardless of how great Juan Manuel's overall skill surely is, it is not within by its' means to overcome it.

However if anyone can expose 'em weak chin of Amir, surely, Juan's precision laser counters are more than up for that task. So JMM has a chance a much greater against Amir's, than to that which he had at fight night against "a PBF" in his last outing.

Lastly, the poise in Amir Khan's game as of late, distinctly upgraded since he came over to Roach's tutelage, will need futher reinforcement as bouts with future HOF require.


There will be fireworks for sure, a good fight overall.

Khan will possibly come away with a UD win, and only JMM's ring savvy prevents an abbreviated result for the young man from Bolton.

Are you kidding me ? an easy technical fight for Amir Khan ? JMM is far more technically skilled than Amir Khan, as for speed ? well didn't he deal well with a faster fighter in Manny Pacquiao ? who hits harder and is alot better than Amir Khan ? or what about Joel Casamayor ?

Bilbo talks about overrated fighters like Lucian Bute, well atleast he's beaten some good opposition, who the hell has Amir Khan beaten that leads anyone to believe Amir Khan is ready for someone like JMM ? even at 140.

Not that long ago Amir Khan was getting dropped, by domestic level fighters and was also brutally KO'ed, by a fighter with pretty much no skill. Amir Khan has beaten not one good/live opponent, he's also ever only fought one puncher whom destroyed him.

Now im not saying that Amir Khan hasn't got skill, but come on im a bit sick of seeing, well Amir Khan has dramatically improved since being Freddie Roach, that is total BS how the hell can anyone tell anything really ?

Because he beat Andriy Kotelnik, the most mediocre title holder in modern day history ? and even he went the distance winning 4 rounds, and clocking Amir Khan quite a few times late on, even with Amir Khan's supposedly improved "defense".

Now just imagine if that was someone like JMM catching him, or any of the other punchers at 140. Lets actually wait and see Amir Khan beat someone who can punch, or atleast someone who's known.

Im sorry Bilbo i've listened to your reasoning, but to me your just totally biased. As hitman said a few days ago you take anything Amir Khan says with a pinch of salt, yet a fighter you dislike for example David Haye, you never miss a chance to hate on him.

Whenever he says anything but yet you don't take that with a pinch of salt, in all honesty i think Amir Khan's up his own ass. His talented no one i don't think has ever denied that.

But im sorry he has come out with some total crap, and he hasn't even beaten one elite fighter yet. And again im not saying he's not capable of it, but lets actually wait and see if he can do it.

Rather than overrating him which you clearly are, despite saying you don't but you clearly do. Why not fight the winner of the Timothy Bradley fight, or fight a puncher like Marcos Rene Maidana to prove he can beat a puncher, why fight a fighter who's clearly undersized at 140.

Even though i think JMM beats Amir Khan. And is x2 the fighter he will ever be. Why don't he beat an elite/prime 140 fighter then people might not stop hating on him, and might start respecting him.

And one last thing you can't improve a weak chin, and i don't believe it has anything to do with the weight either. He's had a weak chin since the Amateur's.

[The Fightfan]

I think Amir is too big for Juan, and simply put, this fight will be bad for JMM, simply because of the disparity in size.

Skill wise, it is an easy technical fight for Khan provided his chin does not get exposed. The combined factors of size with speed is too much of an advantage, that I am afraid, regardless of how great Juan Manuel's overall skill surely is, it is not within by its' means to overcome it.

However if anyone can expose 'em weak chin of Amir, surely, Juan's precision laser counters are more than up for that task. So JMM has a chance a much greater against Amir's, than to that which he had at fight night against "a PBF" in his last outing.

Lastly, the poise in Amir Khan's game as of late, distinctly upgraded since he came over to Roach's tutelage, will need futher reinforcement as bouts with future HOF require.


There will be fireworks for sure, a good fight overall.

Khan will possibly come away with a UD win, and only JMM's ring savvy prevents an abbreviated result for the young man from Bolton.

Are you kidding me ? an easy technical fight for Amir Khan ? JMM is far more technically skilled than Amir Khan, as for speed ? well didn't he deal well with a faster fighter in Manny Pacquiao ? who hits harder and is alot better than Amir Khan ? or what about Joel Casamayor ?

Bilbo talks about overrated fighters like Lucian Bute, well atleast he's beaten some good opposition, who the hell has Amir Khan beaten that leads anyone to believe Amir Khan is ready for someone like JMM ? even at 140.

Not that long ago Amir Khan was getting dropped, by domestic level fighters and was also brutally KO'ed, by a fighter with pretty much no skill. Amir Khan has beaten not one good/live opponent, he's also ever only fought one puncher whom destroyed him.

Now im not saying that Amir Khan hasn't got skill, but come on im a bit sick of seeing, well Amir Khan has dramatically improved since being Freddie Roach, that is total BS how the hell can anyone tell anything really ?

Because he beat Andriy Kotelnik, the most mediocre title holder in modern day history ? and even he went the distance winning 4 rounds, and clocking Amir Khan quite a few times late on, even with Amir Khan's supposedly improved "defense".

Now just imagine if that was someone like JMM catching him, or any of the other punchers at 140. Lets actually wait and see Amir Khan beat someone who can punch, or atleast someone who's known.

Im sorry Bilbo i've listened to your reasoning, but to me your just totally biased. As hitman said a few days ago you take anything Amir Khan says with a pinch of salt, yet a fighter you dislike for example David Haye, you never miss a chance to hate on him.

Whenever he says anything but yet you don't take that with a pinch of salt, in all honesty i think Amir Khan's up his own ass. His talented no one i don't think has ever denied that.

But im sorry he has come out with some total crap, and he hasn't even beaten one elite fighter yet. And again im not saying he's not capable of it, but lets actually wait and see if he can do it.

Rather than overrating him which you clearly are, despite saying you don't but you clearly do. Why not fight the winner of the Timothy Bradley fight, or fight a puncher like Marcos Rene Maidana to prove he can beat a puncher, why fight a fighter who's clearly undersized at 140.

Even though i think JMM beats Amir Khan. And is x2 the fighter he will ever be. Why don't he beat an elite/prime 140 fighter then people might not stop hating on him, and might start respecting him.

And one last thing you can't improve a weak chin, and i don't believe it has anything to do with the weight either. He's had a weak chin since the Amateur's.

Couldn't have agreed more. It doesn't really matter if Khan has improved ten fold he still has a very suspect chin and Marquez is not the guy you want to test it again with. Especially with Marquez's countering abilities.

[Pugilistic]

Some people are seriously underating Marquez since his loss to Mayweather if they think Khan can beat him.

Marquez was outclassed by Mayweather who was naturally bigger, faster, stronger and........better.

Khan is nothing like Floyd expect in the speed department.

Khan has improved over his last four fights but has he improved enough to deal with someone of Marquez's skill level ? hell no imo.

Marquez has proved he can deal with fighters faster and naturally bigger than him (Pacquiao) so why would he have trouble with Khan who is a level or two below Pacquiao ?

Marquez stops Khan imo.

[skel1983]

Some people are seriously underating Marquez since his loss to Mayweather if they think Khan can beat him.

Marquez was outclassed by Mayweather who was naturally bigger, faster, stronger and........better.

Khan is nothing like Floyd expect in the speed department.

Khan has improved over his last four fights but has he improved enough to deal with someone of Marquez's skill level ? hell no imo.

Marquez has proved he can deal with fighters faster and naturally bigger than him (Pacquiao) so why would he have trouble with Khan who is a level or two below Pacquiao ?

Marquez stops Khan imo.

Have to disagree with a few things there mate first off the adavntages Mayweather had over Marquez are more or less the same advantages Khan has you like speed, power, naturally bigger and stronger all them apply to Khan.

Marquez has fought above 130 three times and only once over 135 and is or will be 37 years old he isnt improving Khan is, Marquez is an amazing fighter and someone I love to watch but imo Khan if he sticks to the gamplan can beat Marquez at 140 which is not natural at all to Marquez who had never been near 135 until he was 35.

Also you say he has dealt with bigger guys in the past like Pac?? Bigger in what way?? Marquez is 1/2 an inch bigger in height and only an inch shorter in reach so hows Pac a bigger man??

[KananKrus]

My views as stated earlier, were more on the handicap of which I consider quite severe to overcome, facing JMM in a bout against Amir Khan.

Amir has size that seemingly is being way overlooked here by some.

How tall is Amir, 5'11"? That is an imposing stature at light-welter, 140, by any means of imagination. Goodness, Khan is even being groomed, or in the process of, by the Wildcard Group, to compete for belts at jr middleweight in the not so distant future.

We can put blinders but it'd still be a blunder, to proclaim JMM can hurdle this "Amir obstacle", just by our sheer memory of the fighting qualities of the HOF fighter, in Juan Manuel.

Seriously though, with proper perspective, that is quite a bit of "size" for Juan to deal with while being out of his most competitive division at 130-135lbs. To expect JMM to handily win might just be a case of too much optimism? Maybe.

If the fight is at 130-135, my money is on Juan Manuel Marquez, regardless....

[Pugilistic]

Some people are seriously underating Marquez since his loss to Mayweather if they think Khan can beat him.

Marquez was outclassed by Mayweather who was naturally bigger, faster, stronger and........better.

Khan is nothing like Floyd expect in the speed department.

Khan has improved over his last four fights but has he improved enough to deal with someone of Marquez's skill level ? hell no imo.

Marquez has proved he can deal with fighters faster and naturally bigger than him (Pacquiao) so why would he have trouble with Khan who is a level or two below Pacquiao ?

Marquez stops Khan imo.

Have to disagree with a few things there mate first off the adavntages Mayweather had over Marquez are more or less the same advantages Khan has you like speed, power, naturally bigger and stronger all them apply to Khan.

Marquez has fought above 130 three times and only once over 135 and is or will be 37 years old he isnt improving Khan is, Marquez is an amazing fighter and someone I love to watch but imo Khan if he sticks to the gamplan can beat Marquez at 140 which is not natural at all to Marquez who had never been near 135 until he was 35.

Also you say he has dealt with bigger guys in the past like Pac?? Bigger in what way?? Marquez is 1/2 an inch bigger in height and only an inch shorter in reach so hows Pac a bigger man??

The main problem for Marquez against Mayweather wasn't just weight, it was the fact that Mayweather was the superior counter puncher and took Marquez apart because of it.

Khan doesn't possess the counter punching ability or defense, all he has that is comparable is handspeed and footwork.

Obviously the move up in weight will make Marquez slower which was clear against Floyd but, one thing Marquez has showed while moving up in weight is that he carries power and with Khan's leaky defense and glass chin, i think even a tiny Marquez can take advantage of it.

If Marquez was to land a few of these:



Ignore the fact Mayweather lands also , i can't see Khan being able to take alot of them.

Regarding my opinion on Pacquiao being bigger, height and reach aren't the only factors.

Look at the difference in success both fighters have had while moving up in weight.

Pacquiao is grinding down natural welterweights.

Marquez was struggling with lightweights.

Pacquiao has been more effective because he has been able to fill out more and maintain his speed, power, etc while the smaller Marquez could only move up so much before his speed took a hit.

I think Pacquiao could even be effective at 154 where Marquez's limit at the moment appears to be 135.

[skel1983]

Some people are seriously underating Marquez since his loss to Mayweather if they think Khan can beat him.

Marquez was outclassed by Mayweather who was naturally bigger, faster, stronger and........better.

Khan is nothing like Floyd expect in the speed department.

Khan has improved over his last four fights but has he improved enough to deal with someone of Marquez's skill level ? hell no imo.

Marquez has proved he can deal with fighters faster and naturally bigger than him (Pacquiao) so why would he have trouble with Khan who is a level or two below Pacquiao ?

Marquez stops Khan imo.

Have to disagree with a few things there mate first off the adavntages Mayweather had over Marquez are more or less the same advantages Khan has you like speed, power, naturally bigger and stronger all them apply to Khan.

Marquez has fought above 130 three times and only once over 135 and is or will be 37 years old he isnt improving Khan is, Marquez is an amazing fighter and someone I love to watch but imo Khan if he sticks to the gamplan can beat Marquez at 140 which is not natural at all to Marquez who had never been near 135 until he was 35.

Also you say he has dealt with bigger guys in the past like Pac?? Bigger in what way?? Marquez is 1/2 an inch bigger in height and only an inch shorter in reach so hows Pac a bigger man??

The main problem for Marquez against Mayweather wasn't just weight, it was the fact that Mayweather was the superior counter puncher and took Marquez apart because of it.

Khan doesn't possess the counter punching ability or defense, all he has that is comparable is handspeed and footwork.

Obviously the move up in weight will make Marquez slower which was clear against Floyd but, one thing Marquez has showed while moving up in weight is that he carries power and with Khan's leaky defense and glass chin, i think even a tiny Marquez can take advantage of it.

If Marquez was to land a few of these:



Ignore the fact Mayweather lands also , i can't see Khan being able to take alot of them.

Regarding Pacquiao being bigger, height and reach aren't the only factors.

Look at the difference in success both fighters have had while moving up in weight.

Pacquiao is grinding down natural welterweights.

Marquez was struggling with lightweights.

Pacquiao has been more effective because he has been able to fill out more and maintain his speed, power, etc while the smaller Marquez could only move up so much before his speed took a hit.

I think Pacquiao could even be effective at 154 where Marquez's limit at the moment appears to be 135.

What relevance has Pac adapting to the higher wieghts got to do with when Pac/Marquez met at 125 and 130? You said Marquez has shown he can deal with bigger guys when he fought Pac??

I dont understand how the hell Pac moving up and copeing at the higher weights means Marquez dealt with a bigger man at 125/130? Marquez was more or less the same size when they met?

Khan is 3/4 inches bigger than Marquez with a 5 inch reach advantage he is much bigger, we will have to see how the fight pans out but to say Marquez has shown he can deal with bigger guys than use Pac as an example is very confusing.