Andre Berto Pulls Off The Upset Shane Mosley Is Getting Overrated.

[killersheep]

Berto is stuck in between styles far too often to be called a sound technical fighter..he literally cannot make up his mind at times and forces mistakes.Anyone that says Mosley was shot in with Mayorga is off their rocker.I still believe that fight was all about Mosley making a statement,getting rough and rugged with Mayorga going into the Margarito fight.I dont see Berto with the endurance,resilience,strength and experience of either of those two.Once Mosley catches Berto falling in and looking to clinch afterwords on those stiff legs I expect Mosley to carve him up badly and take him to neighborhoods he has never come close to walking through.

This.

Berto's inside game sucks, his footwork sucks and his defence sucks.
On the flipside his handspeed is disgustingly fast and he has decent power.

My take: Mosley is going to use his superior timing to knock Berto's weak stance off balance all night long on a dominant performance, with Berto hitting the canvas twice.

[OumaFan]

Yeah, saying his weakness is squaring up on the inside is being a bit nice, he doesn't have an inside game to speak of at all.

I do think "this" Shane could be getting slightly overrated but I don't think Berto's the one to beat him.

[Kev]

Yeah, saying his weakness is squaring up on the inside is being a bit nice, he doesn't have an inside game to speak of at all.

I do think "this" Shane could be getting slightly overrated but I don't think Berto's the one to beat him.

You know Ouma, ever since Youngblood called you out for making wishy washy postings I just notice it all the time.

Never an exclamation mark, never capital letters, bold lettering, or any trace of language that could be aggressive, excitable or opinionated.


You are the very embodiment of ambivalent indifference.

[OumaFan]

Exclamation points are for young girls

I disagree about the capital letters part.

[Majesty]

Shane's win over Margarito is being overrated yes.

Back when people were saying Mosley was done when he struggled with Mayorga, he beat Margarito and people think he is ready for Mayweather.

I think this Berto fight would be a good gauge on how he will stay with a young fighter.

But I think Mosley is underestimating Berto he has been talking all this trash lately and saying that the fight won't go beond six rounds. That could be a mistake.

[amat]

What jab from Berto I mean I know he has a jab but to put his jab on the level of Wright's or Forrest's is overrating Berto. Berto has a nice jab, his up-jab in particular is a great weapon for someone as short as him. However, no way does he have the type of controlling that those guys had. Both of their had to set up their whole offense behind their jabs, Berto hardly uses his.

If Berto comes in and isn't significantly better then he was against Collazo, no way he wins this bout. I think he will have moments of success like Mayorga did because he has speed and Shane is going to be there to bang with him. Like OumaFan, I'm not so kind in describing Berto's inside game. He's not going to drop Shane, and he's not going to stop him. Winning enough exchanges for 12 rounds to win the fight.

I think Berto will give a good showing but lose a decision/stoppage. I think he'll have a lot of moments early and then by the 3rd or 4th round, Mosley will start dictating the fight because I don't think that Berto can stay behind a jab and neutralize Mosley like others have done. He would have to win a firefight and of that I don't think he is yet capable. I'm not overrating Mosley either, but you have to be expecting just a completely different Berto against Mosley. The one who showed up into the ring that barely got by against Luis Collazo definitely will not win versus Shane Mosley. I'm not overrating Mosley either, that's pretty much common sense.

OumaFan posts like a real person would speak. I wish more people did that. Especially youngblood with his cutesy internet slang like 'lolz' or anything of the sort.

[Kev]

Shane's win over Margarito is being overrated yes.

Back when people were saying Mosley was done when he struggled with Mayorga, he beat Margarito and people think he is ready for Mayweather.

I think this Berto fight would be a good gauge on how he will stay with a young fighter.

But I think Mosley is underestimating Berto he has been talking all this trash lately and saying that the fight won't go beond six rounds. That could be a mistake.

Berto looks vulnerable to me though. I mean Cosme Riveria even dropped him and took him into the late rounds. Plus he went life and death with Collazo who Mosely completely dominated.

Ok Shane struggled against Mayorga, but he came through in the end with a stunning knockout, and that was possibly the most motivated, disciplined and well trained Mayorga we have seen.

I think there are two scenarios.

First, the young kid rises to the occasion, is too fast and outworks Shane for a hard fought but clear decision, similar to maybe Calzaghe Eubank.

The second is that Berto is just badly exposed, gets dropped, beaten up, maybe even stopped.

I don't see Berto hurting Shane or coming close to stopping him, and I definitely think Berto will have the heat put on him. It just depends if he can take it or not.

On past performances I think Berto will struggle, but statistically the young fighter wins more often than not.......

[JonesJrMayweather]

What I don't get is how people are claiming that mosley was DONE after he knocked out mayorga...So he didn't look good against an awkward fighter at a weight that he's never really been able to impose his power and will. Every time Shane fights at 154 he looks slow and loads up throwing only one or two punches...

Mosley since 2005 is 7-1 with a very close loss to cotto...How was he done?