Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
I would argue that this is more a reflection on the use of firearms being somewhat out of control in the US. How about the numbers of Iraqi civilans killed for every one US soldier? We have pretty much everyone except Lyle agreeing that the Iraq war was illegitimate. Not a healthy reflection on the US no matter how you want to try and spin things.
#1 Firearms are not out of control in the US, FACT

#2 Iraq was going to get screwed with one way or another and the only thing I disagree with is the strategy, we fought with one hand tied behind our backs and we have continued to do so.

Why don't you civilian loving assholes check out what happened to civilians in World War I, World War II, Korea, and Vietnam and if Iraq or Afghanistan even comes CLOSE to any one of those then I'll concede my view and declare you the winner of this debate