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Have to disagree with a few things there mate first off the adavntages Mayweather had over Marquez are more or less the same advantages Khan has you like speed, power, naturally bigger and stronger all them apply to Khan.

Marquez has fought above 130 three times and only once over 135 and is or will be 37 years old he isnt improving Khan is, Marquez is an amazing fighter and someone I love to watch but imo Khan if he sticks to the gamplan can beat Marquez at 140 which is not natural at all to Marquez who had never been near 135 until he was 35.

Also you say he has dealt with bigger guys in the past like Pac?? Bigger in what way?? Marquez is 1/2 an inch bigger in height and only an inch shorter in reach so hows Pac a bigger man??

The main problem for Marquez against Mayweather wasn't just weight, it was the fact that Mayweather was the superior counter puncher and took Marquez apart because of it.

Khan doesn't possess the counter punching ability or defense, all he has that is comparable is handspeed and footwork.

Obviously the move up in weight will make Marquez slower which was clear against Floyd but, one thing Marquez has showed while moving up in weight is that he carries power and with Khan's leaky defense and glass chin, i think even a tiny Marquez can take advantage of it.

If Marquez was to land a few of these:



Ignore the fact Mayweather lands also , i can't see Khan being able to take alot of them.

Regarding Pacquiao being bigger, height and reach aren't the only factors.

Look at the difference in success both fighters have had while moving up in weight.

Pacquiao is grinding down natural welterweights.

Marquez was struggling with lightweights.

Pacquiao has been more effective because he has been able to fill out more and maintain his speed, power, etc while the smaller Marquez could only move up so much before his speed took a hit.

I think Pacquiao could even be effective at 154 where Marquez's limit at the moment appears to be 135.

What relevance has Pac adapting to the higher wieghts got to do with when Pac/Marquez met at 125 and 130? You said Marquez has shown he can deal with bigger guys when he fought Pac??

I dont understand how the hell Pac moving up and copeing at the higher weights means Marquez dealt with a bigger man at 125/130? Marquez was more or less the same size when they met?

Khan is 3/4 inches bigger than Marquez with a 5 inch reach advantage he is much bigger, we will have to see how the fight pans out but to say Marquez has shown he can deal with bigger guys than use Pac as an example is very confusing.
I was using Pacquiao as an example based more on his speed than size.

Marquez was able to deal with the bigger Casamayor and Diaz. Are those better examples for you ?

You also never gave me your opinion on the first half of my post ?

Don't you think Marquez has the ability to catch Khan like he was able to do with Mayweather there ?

The thing with Khan though is that he is easier to hit than Floyd plus i doubt Khan could take a shot as well as Floyd did there.

Kotelnik was able to catch Khan a few times but lacked the power to make a difference, I think Marquez's power could and would make the difference between the two.