Will Khan be able to handle Marquez?

[ICB]

Because he beat Andriy Kotelnik, the most mediocre title holder in modern day history ? and even he went the distance winning 4 rounds, and clocking Amir Khan quite a few times late on, even with Amir Khan's supposedly improved "defense".

See, this is what annoys me, and it's not just you who does it, but...

This is what you said before the fight...

"I think Andriy Kotelnik may have the experience and toughness, to maybe drag Amir Khan into deep waters and maybe stop him late on. In the MAB fight i still see the same flaws in Amir Khan."

and this is what you said during the fight...

"But Andriy Kotelnik is no mug either, he's a solid opponent with a decent boxing brain. I didn't think he would get caught with much silly punches. Overall a decent win for Amir Khan."

This is exactly why i don't think he'd get credit for beating the likes of Maidana, Holt, Paulie, D-Hop etc...

It's too easy to use hindsight. If you think a fighter is going to lose a fight and he wins, you should give him credit for it.

I can see it now...If he beats Maidana it's because Maidana is slow and sloppy (which ICB has already said), If he beats Holt, then it's no big deal because Holt hasn't really beaten anyone of note. If he beats Paulie, he'll get stick for not fighting a puncher. He can't win, and it's been like that pretty much since he turned pro, on here.

This was just after the Breidis Prescott fight, and not long after he was getting dropped by fighters like Michael Gomez. So yes i wasn't sure how Amir Khan would react.

And as i said it was a decent win for Amir Khan, im suprised you went back that long. And tried to disprove me yet you missed the thread, where i gave Amir Khan credit for the win just after the fight.

I've never said Andriy Kotelnik is a bad fighter, i do think he is pretty mediocre. He's a decent boxer as i've always said, but he is pretty basic and mediocre.

And he doesn't do any one thing that well, and my prediction wasn't too far off. He did drag Amir Khan into deep waters in the later rounds, and did catch Amir Khan late on. But Amir Khan was able to be cautious enough to survive some hairy moments late on. And Andriy Kotelnik did hit hard enough which pretty much sums it up.

Because at that time no one really knew of Amir Khan's improved defense, as you said its easy to say this and that with hindsight. Just like its easy for you too pull old comments from my posts, but i don't think i've said anything different have i ?

I've always said Andriy Kotelnik is decent, but again he is pretty much one of the worst title holders in modern history. But i've said it was a decent win for Amir Khan and thats it, decent now its time to move on and see if he can beat some of the big boys.

He needs to beat a puncher for a start, he's only ever fought 1 opponent who can punch and he was layed out. Or he needs to fight an American fighter with a name, someone like Devon Alexander or Timothy Bradley would be good wins for him.

[ono]

No, it was after the MAB fight. If you're saying that he's the most mediocre titleist in modern day history, then yes, in a way you are saying he's shite. It's quite a statement to make.Especially after you predicted he'd knock Khan out - yes that was after the MAB fight aswell.I don't get how you don't think the Kotelnik fight means anything, yet you was so excited you had to start a thread about Mitchell beating Prescott.

[ICB]

No, it was after the MAB fight. If you're saying that he's the most mediocre titleist in modern day history, then yes, in a way you are saying he's shite. It's quite a statement to make.Especially after you predicted he'd knock Khan out - yes that was after the MAB fight aswell.I don't get how you don't think the Kotelnik fight means anything, yet you was so excited you had to start a thread about Mitchell beating Prescott.

I never said he would KO Amir Khan, i said maybe he can. I never ever made a comment where i thought Andriy Kotelnik was the favorite, i was just pointing out if he can take the early storm of Amir Khan, maybe he can get to him late, because at that point i'd never seen Amir Khan go 12 rounds.

Come on mate are you honestly picking me up on a comment, i made that long ago ? to be honest i don't think i said anything real different than im saying now, i said Andriy Kotelnik is decent but he is mediocre, there isn't many worst title holders than him in the last decade.

That doesn't mean he's shite that just means, he's not world championship calibre, and he won his title off again one of the worst title holders in the last decade. But i did give Amir Khan credit for going 12 rounds and winning, do you want me to show you that thread ? i don't see whats so wrong about me giving Kevin Mitchell credit.

He hasn't been in the spotlight like Amir Khan, has for quite awhile. And he moved up in weight comeback from injuries, and got a dominant win over a dangerous puncher, who destroyed the fighter you and Bilbo rate highly, so why wouldn't i give him credit ? i don't really know what your getting at.

[ono]

No, it was after the MAB fight. If you're saying that he's the most mediocre titleist in modern day history, then yes, in a way you are saying he's shite. It's quite a statement to make.Especially after you predicted he'd knock Khan out - yes that was after the MAB fight aswell.I don't get how you don't think the Kotelnik fight means anything, yet you was so excited you had to start a thread about Mitchell beating Prescott.

I never said he would KO Amir Khan, i said maybe he can. I never ever made a comment where i thought Andriy Kotelnik was the favorite, i was just pointing out if he can take the early storm of Amir Khan, maybe he can get to him late, because at that point i'd never seen Amir Khan go 12 rounds.

Come on mate are you honestly picking me up on a comment, i made that long ago ? to be honest i don't think i said anything real different than im saying now, i said Andriy Kotelnik is decent but he is mediocre, there isn't many worst title holders than him in the last decade.

That doesn't mean he's shite that just means, he's not world championship calibre, and he won his title off again one of the worst title holders in the last decade. But i did give Amir Khan credit for going 12 rounds and winning, do you want me to show you that thread ? i don't see whats so wrong about me giving Kevin Mitchell credit.

He hasn't been in the spotlight like Amir Khan, has for quite awhile. And he moved up in weight comeback from injuries, and got a dominant win over a dangerous puncher, who destroyed the fighter you and Bilbo rate highly, so why wouldn't i give him credit ? i don't really know what your getting at.

Sorry mate my point wasn't to pick on you specifically. It was more a point of showing how people change their peception of an opponent after Khan beats them. It only relates to you because you said you'd give Khan credit for fighting Maidana (who you've admitted isn't that good - and i agree), Paulie, Holt, etc. I personally don't feel he'd get credit for beating some of them. The 3 main fighters he's get credit for beating would be Bradley, Alexander and Peterson. The rest, it would be too easy to pick out their faults and claim it's not surprising Amir beat them.

It's always been the case with Kahn.