Should Bush and Blair be tried for war crimes?

[El Kabong]

Miles #1 "all this" (re: the economy or the wars) wasn't started just by Bush both had been coming for a long time and Bush isn't the ONLY guy to blame and the Republican party isn't the only party to blame either but yes they did help cause this and because of that nearly all of them were voted out of office. So just how poorly do the democrats have to govern to reach the point where hardcore "big C" Conservatives are the favorites heading into 2010? #2 I find that "reactionary" comment amusing considering you're one of the people suggesting Bush should be tried for war crimes.

The people are always a step ahead of the government and this first year of Obama + the liberal House & Senate have been awful. The people were sold Obama as some kind of wiz kid saviour but he's inexperienced, he's egotistical, and he is seemingly uninterested in anything other than Healthcare and that isn't America's most pressing need at the moment. Now 10% unemployment would be a DREAM scenario for a place like France but in the US it's unacceptable. If you add the unemployment together with the foreclosure rates (Obama is now the sole leader in foreclosures in a year) and the money the Democrats put into TARP and used to bailout various companies you can see why Conservatives are coming back with a vengence...just for a frame of reference it took Republicans over a decade (1994-2006) to wear out their welcome as the majority party.

[Kirkland Laing]

Miles #1 "all this" (re: the economy or the wars) wasn't started just by Bush both had been coming for a long time and Bush isn't the ONLY guy to blame and the Republican party isn't the only party to blame either but yes they did help cause this and because of that nearly all of them were voted out of office. So just how poorly do the democrats have to govern to reach the point where hardcore "big C" Conservatives are the favorites heading into 2010? #2 I find that "reactionary" comment amusing considering you're one of the people suggesting Bush should be tried for war crimes.

The people are always a step ahead of the government and this first year of Obama + the liberal House & Senate have been awful. The people were sold Obama as some kind of wiz kid saviour but he's inexperienced, he's egotistical, and he is seemingly uninterested in anything other than Healthcare and that isn't America's most pressing need at the moment. Now 10% unemployment would be a DREAM scenario for a place like France but in the US it's unacceptable. If you add the unemployment together with the foreclosure rates (Obama is now the sole leader in foreclosures in a year) and the money the Democrats put into TARP and used to bailout various companies you can see why Conservatives are coming back with a vengence...just for a frame of reference it took Republicans over a decade (1994-2006) to wear out their welcome as the majority party.

Bush is entirely to blame for both the economic meltdown and the Iraq war. He's the guy who made up a bunch of bs to get his illegal war on and the guy who deregulated the US financial system back to 1928.

France's unemployment rate is lower than America's.

Bush is responsible for every single dollar of the TARP fund. Obama hasn't added a single dollar to the more than seven trillion dollars of taxpayer money that the socialist war criminal Bush used to guarantee the losses of the socialist bankers, Bush basically guaranteed all losses at 100 cents on the dollar before Obama took office.

And the GOP is gaining support again because America is chock full of dumb motherfunkers who can't remember what happened a year ago.

[Nameless]

Miles #1 "all this" (re: the economy or the wars) wasn't started just by Bush both had been coming for a long time and Bush isn't the ONLY guy to blame and the Republican party isn't the only party to blame either but yes they did help cause this and because of that nearly all of them were voted out of office. So just how poorly do the democrats have to govern to reach the point where hardcore "big C" Conservatives are the favorites heading into 2010? #2 I find that "reactionary" comment amusing considering you're one of the people suggesting Bush should be tried for war crimes.

The people are always a step ahead of the government and this first year of Obama + the liberal House & Senate have been awful. The people were sold Obama as some kind of wiz kid saviour but he's inexperienced, he's egotistical, and he is seemingly uninterested in anything other than Healthcare and that isn't America's most pressing need at the moment. Now 10% unemployment would be a DREAM scenario for a place like France but in the US it's unacceptable. If you add the unemployment together with the foreclosure rates (Obama is now the sole leader in foreclosures in a year) and the money the Democrats put into TARP and used to bailout various companies you can see why Conservatives are coming back with a vengence...just for a frame of reference it took Republicans over a decade (1994-2006) to wear out their welcome as the majority party.

Actually, one of the very most suited economic crack available to me is Ron Paul. The guy's very clever and has seen a lot, he would be a fine pick for the Republican Party for the next elections. As for Obama, he was the best pick among the 3-4 last candidates (Romney, Huckaby, Clinton and McCain), the problem is peoples saw him as a savior when he was just the less shitty option available. He made a few good decisions when he started, some of which the american peoples should be proud of but at the moment, he's juggling with strange knifes and I have the impression he's sinking a bit. The problem is not that much the idea of the healthcare reform but the way he seems to want it to be done, I will have to read a bit more about it to have a more enlightened point of view but from now, I lean toward the good idea wrongfully applied.

[El Kabong]

The problem with Obama is that he never ran anything in the private sector or in government to show he was prepared to lead the country.

Romney had success in the private sector and in government (bar the healthcare he passed in Mass.)

Huckabee was Gov. of Arkansas (same as Bill Clinton)

McCain has military experience which right now would be nice to have.

And Hillary, if she ran like her husband did being lead by the polls then yes she would be better than Obama because she'd be closer to center.

Obama was a single term junior Senator and before that he was a "Community Organizer"...he will soon be known as the Affirmative Action President, and he has the gall to call out Clarence Thomas as "lacking experience"....Obama is God awful he's 100% focused on Healthcare and everything else doesn't matter to him, not the economy (he probably welcomes it doing so poorly to get more people on board with the Healthcare bill) and the wars are just a nusance to him. Obama is in waaaaaay over his head and I swear to God if Palin is running against him in 2012 I may just move to the fucking moon.

[Nameless]

The problem with Obama is that he never ran anything in the private sector or in government to show he was prepared to lead the country.

Romney had success in the private sector and in government (bar the healthcare he passed in Mass.)

Huckabee was Gov. of Arkansas (same as Bill Clinton)

McCain has military experience which right now would be nice to have.

And Hillary, if she ran like her husband did being lead by the polls then yes she would be better than Obama because she'd be closer to center.

Obama was a single term junior Senator and before that he was a "Community Organizer"...he will soon be known as the Affirmative Action President, and he has the gall to call out Clarence Thomas as "lacking experience"....Obama is God awful he's 100% focused on Healthcare and everything else doesn't matter to him, not the economy (he probably welcomes it doing so poorly to get more people on board with the Healthcare bill) and the wars are just a nusance to him. Obama is in waaaaaay over his head and I swear to God if Palin is running against him in 2012 I may just move to the fucking moon.

Instead of going to the Moon, I invite you to French part of Canada. We have a socialist healthcare system that works quite good and we're far from being communist. Plus, you could learn french easily and for free and I can show you how Montreal is great

Thus said, Romney is a bit of an egoistical maniac, McCain is disconnected from a large chunk or Reality, Clinton is the corporate bitch and Huckaby is a devoted überconservativ Mormon and religious creep. Sadly Obama was better than them all (I think personally) and he did a couple of good moves, it's just his latest healthcare which is too obsessive otherwise he might do not too bad at all. For the Reps, I persist and sign: Ron Paul should be the man.

[El Kabong]

Instead of going to the Moon, I invite you to French part of Canada. We have a socialist healthcare system that works quite good and we're far from being communist. Plus, you could learn french easily and for free and I can show you how Montreal is great

Thus said, Romney is a bit of an egoistical maniac, McCain is disconnected from a large chunk or Reality, Clinton is the corporate bitch and Huckaby is a devoted überconservativ Mormon and religious creep. Sadly Obama was better than them all (I think personally) and he did a couple of good moves, it's just his latest healthcare which is too obsessive otherwise he might do not too bad at all. For the Reps, I persist and sign: Ron Paul should be the man.

Ron Paul is ok....he'd win over more voters if his supporters weren't all The Simpson's Comicbook Guy look-a-likes.

Romney is just a bit "stiff", he lacks the timing to use the 1 liners to win over the crowd at debates. McCain missed his shot 2000 was his year. Huckabee isn't a mormon, that's Romney...he is however a Baptist but he had a decent stance on things like evolution, at least he was able to communicate better than all the other Republicans. Obama was not the best he was merely the one nobody knew anything about but everyone had the most hope for....he's a HORRIBLE President

If I'm moving to a French speaking country, I'm going to France proper....Sarkozy is a solid leader

[Nameless]

Instead of going to the Moon, I invite you to French part of Canada. We have a socialist healthcare system that works quite good and we're far from being communist. Plus, you could learn french easily and for free and I can show you how Montreal is great

Thus said, Romney is a bit of an egoistical maniac, McCain is disconnected from a large chunk or Reality, Clinton is the corporate bitch and Huckaby is a devoted überconservativ Mormon and religious creep. Sadly Obama was better than them all (I think personally) and he did a couple of good moves, it's just his latest healthcare which is too obsessive otherwise he might do not too bad at all. For the Reps, I persist and sign: Ron Paul should be the man.

Ron Paul is ok....he'd win over more voters if his supporters weren't all The Simpson's Comicbook Guy look-a-likes.

Romney is just a bit "stiff", he lacks the timing to use the 1 liners to win over the crowd at debates. McCain missed his shot 2000 was his year. Huckabee isn't a mormon, that's Romney...he is however a Baptist but he had a decent stance on things like evolution, at least he was able to communicate better than all the other Republicans. Obama was not the best he was merely the one nobody knew anything about but everyone had the most hope for....he's a HORRIBLE President

If I'm moving to a French speaking country, I'm going to France proper....Sarkozy is a solid leader

You're right for Romney and Huckaby, my mistake, I did reverse the two. As for Sarkozy, are you serious or it was sarcasm? I am all tired and at this moment I lack concentration to find if you were serious or not.
As for Obama, I seriously feel he's better than the 4 others though very disappointing lately. Ron Paul on economy is a very serious heavyweight and I am not sure that the Democrats have a better candidate on that stand at the moment personally. Beside, Quebec is good as not too far from the US (not at all actually) and we speak english here too. Though I could understand that solely for wine, you might want a trip in France. Talking of, I bought some serious killer bottles lately some Red and some White, including some excellent Merseault

[Kirkland Laing]

The problem with Obama is that he never ran anything in the private sector or in government to show he was prepared to lead the country.

Romney had success in the private sector and in government (bar the healthcare he passed in Mass.)

Huckabee was Gov. of Arkansas (same as Bill Clinton)

McCain has military experience which right now would be nice to have.

And Hillary, if she ran like her husband did being lead by the polls then yes she would be better than Obama because she'd be closer to center.

Obama was a single term junior Senator and before that he was a "Community Organizer"...he will soon be known as the Affirmative Action President, and he has the gall to call out Clarence Thomas as "lacking experience"....Obama is God awful he's 100% focused on Healthcare and everything else doesn't matter to him, not the economy (he probably welcomes it doing so poorly to get more people on board with the Healthcare bill) and the wars are just a nusance to him. Obama is in waaaaaay over his head and I swear to God if Palin is running against him in 2012 I may just move to the fucking moon.

Obama doesn't need experience running anything because he doesn't have anything to run. Foreign policy, energy policy and "defence" are run by the war and oil and gas industries, the financial system is run by the banks, healthcare by the healthcare corporations....

Out of the choices available to Americans him and Hillary were the least worst options, but there's basically zero difference between Obama and McCain. I can wake up every lunchtime and not have to worry that President McCain has invaded Iran, or re-invaded Vietnam, but other than possibly adding more dumb wars to the existing ones things wouldn't be any different if McCain had won.