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    Quote Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS View Post
    He is a squirmy mo fo, hell you probably couldn't hit 'em with no.8 bird shot at 40 yards but he did try(not to get hit) and didn't run for his life did he haye?
    Why would he have? He has a longer reach than Vitali and the size/weight difference between the two is largely irrelevant compared to the 100 pound/1 foot difference enjoyed by Valuev.... but obviously you want your man to get as much credit as possible for beating Johnson, who am I to judge?

    Have you seen the way that Wlad fights against much smaller fighters? on occasion it has been flat out EMBARRASSING.... wouldn't try and gloat too much kid.

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    Default Re: Kevin Johnson

    another boring heavyweight fight, not sure which was worse this or Haye-Valuev... one thing for certain the Heavyweight division is still down at the bottom of entertaining divisions.

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    How would Wlad have done vs Johnson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS View Post
    He is a squirmy mo fo, hell you probably couldn't hit 'em with no.8 bird shot at 40 yards but he did try(not to get hit) and didn't run for his life did he haye?
    Why would he have? He has a longer reach than Vitali and the size/weight difference between the two is largely irrelevant compared to the 100 pound/1 foot difference enjoyed by Valuev.... but obviously you want your man to get as much credit as possible for beating Johnson, who am I to judge?

    Have you seen the way that Wlad fights against much smaller fighters? on occasion it has been flat out EMBARRASSING.... wouldn't try and gloat too much kid.
    And what fight was that?
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    I'm sorry... but as long as they keep dredging up bums bent on survival, like Johnson, the Klitschkos will always have that dreaded asterisk next to their names. Not their fault, but true nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I'm sorry... but as long as they keep dredging up bums bent on survival, like Johnson, the Klitschkos will always have that dreaded asterisk next to their names. Not their fault, but true nonetheless.
    ...it takes two to tango, Tyson had PLENTY of challengers who didn't want to be in the ring.

    Wlad fights smaller fighters in pretty good fashion, I think too much is put on what he did vs Sultan, Rahman, and Chagaev but in all honesty Wlad was TRYING to get Sultan to fight him but Sultan crouched down really low and was hard to hit. He has no excuses for not throwing the kitchen sink at Rahman, I can understand being a little cautious vs Chagaev as no one knew how good his chin was or if he would retaliate more with the more punishment he took, but there came a point where even I wanted Wlad to pull that guy's card. VS Byrd he had pretty solid workrate, in the rematch he was very active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I'm sorry... but as long as they keep dredging up bums bent on survival, like Johnson, the Klitschkos will always have that dreaded asterisk next to their names. Not their fault, but true nonetheless.

    You know they're all great till one of the brothers takes them out then and only then they turn out to be bums.How is that? Well I'm not Nostradamus but I think the next bum will be david haye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    I'm sorry... but as long as they keep dredging up bums bent on survival, like Johnson, the Klitschkos will always have that dreaded asterisk next to their names. Not their fault, but true nonetheless.

    You know they're all great till one of the brothers takes them out then and only then they turn out to be bums.How is that? Well I'm not Nostradamus but I think the next bum will be david haye.
    I must've missed the memo that said Kevin Johnson was great. He was a bum BEFORE the Klitschko fight, a bum DURING the fight, and REMAINS a bum. Not Klitschko's fault, mind you, but still a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS View Post
    He is a squirmy mo fo, hell you probably couldn't hit 'em with no.8 bird shot at 40 yards but he did try(not to get hit) and didn't run for his life did he haye?
    Why would he have? He has a longer reach than Vitali and the size/weight difference between the two is largely irrelevant compared to the 100 pound/1 foot difference enjoyed by Valuev.... but obviously you want your man to get as much credit as possible for beating Johnson, who am I to judge?

    Have you seen the way that Wlad fights against much smaller fighters? on occasion it has been flat out EMBARRASSING.... wouldn't try and gloat too much kid.
    And what fight was that?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYFQvN9Shns

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS View Post
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    Why would he have? He has a longer reach than Vitali and the size/weight difference between the two is largely irrelevant compared to the 100 pound/1 foot difference enjoyed by Valuev.... but obviously you want your man to get as much credit as possible for beating Johnson, who am I to judge?

    Have you seen the way that Wlad fights against much smaller fighters? on occasion it has been flat out EMBARRASSING.... wouldn't try and gloat too much kid.
    And what fight was that?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYFQvN9Shns

    I knew you were going to bring up Sultan Ibragimov but the main thing you are over looking about SI is the fact that he was smart and fast with decent power and to disregard him in any way would be foolish and Wlad was not going to be his fool for that Wlad gets chastised.I will say this if Sultan were to come back I see him beating everyone under the Klitschkos and maybe even Wlad in a rematch.
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    Default Re: Kevin Johnson

    able to kiss vitali was the only significant thing kevin johnson did


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    I know Johnson was shit but Vitali looked horrible and slow in this fight. I thought both were utter shit.

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    Also on that performance I can't see why some fans think Haye would get beat so easily. Watch this fight again and picture Haye in there, I think he has a better chance than anyone else at heavy with the speed he has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS View Post

    And what fight was that?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYFQvN9Shns

    I knew you were going to bring up Sultan Ibragimov but the main thing you are over looking about SI is the fact that he was smart and fast with decent power and to disregard him in any way would be foolish and Wlad was not going to be his fool for that Wlad gets chastised.I will say this if Sultan were to come back I see him beating everyone under the Klitschkos and maybe even Wlad in a rematch.
    I thought Wlad fought the perfect fight against Sultan. His chin was an untested quantity and the guy was just looking to load up a bomb against Wlad. Fight smarter, not harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Johnson isn't a bum, he's a prospect, he should have been nowhere near Klitschko. There should be the same anger there would be if Mayweather or Pacquiao was choosing to fight Saul Alvarez or Antwone Smith. In fact, look at the shit Kelly Pavlik is getting for fighting Espino (rightly imo), why is Vitali not catching the same shit for making a voluntary defence against a guy who's not fought above domestic level yet?

    I like the guy, but you need to call it how it is & that is that Vitali has a severe case of cherry-picking here. He should have at least fought Povetkin or Chagaev. There's no excuse for taking on a guy who's best win is Devin Vargas.
    How does Vitali cherry pick? He wanted to fight Haye and Haye backed out. Like Arreola and Peters, Johnson was ranked in the top ten (or at least close to it) when Vitali fought him. Any negativity should be more of a reflection on the lack of strength of the division, not Vitali. Povetkin is in line to fight his brother after Chambers and won't fight a Klitschko until he has a couple more fights under his belt with Teddy Atlas. It's not Vitali's fault. In regards to Chagaev, Vlad already spanked him and Chagaev is out of commission for the time being anyway- there are rumors of retirement. Who else is there in the top ten?

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