*SPOILERS* Live Vitali-Kevin Johnson Discussion

[Dadi Astthorsson]

This was THE WORST round by round I have ever fucking seen...thanks for nothing you bastards. I checked on here time and time again, never a total score, never a round score, just people bitching about the fight...can you please in the future score the rounds no one gives a crap about what your opinion is on the fight UNLESS it includes the score, and even then the score/result is the main reason for a round-by-round or any kind of spoilers

Cagey counterpunchers are always going to give Vitali trouble. I'd like to see Toney or Chambers in there with him.

Who has prooven that? The only reason Vitali lost to Chris Byrd was because he tore his rotator cuff (he was well ahead on the scorecards).

I'm not talking about winning or losing.
I want to know, was Vitali sitting down on his punches or has he turned into a giant Sam Soliman?

I'm not talking about winning or losing. Stylistically speaking, he matches well with aggressive pressure fighters. Counterpunchers, not so much.

[El Kabong]

I think counter punchers are at a disadvantage versus either Klitschko....you let a Klitschko lead and it's going to be a long night because they WILL land meaningful punches and counter punching is all about avoiding those punishing blows....just my view of it.

[Dadi Astthorsson]

I think counter punchers are at a disadvantage versus either Klitschko....you let a Klitschko lead and it's going to be a long night because they WILL land meaningful punches and counter punching is all about avoiding those punishing blows....just my view of it.

Of course.

But if you are worth your salt as a counterpuncher, you don't LET someone lead. You MAKE them lead. That's why I want someone who's out of elementary school boxing-wise, unlike Johnson.

[El Kabong]

OK, the main issue I have with Johnson and him being a pure "counter puncher" is that to be a counter puncher your best punch cannot be the jab. If your best punch is the jab then you MUST lead. However you should jab and then bait your opponent for a counter and then counter that....snap a jab out, drop your lead hand, wait for the right cross, roll with the punch and counter (overhand right/right uppercut) and repeat as long as successful.

At least it seems like Kevin Johnson is durable or has good defense, too bad he was just tryng to last 12

[DaxxKahn]

I think counter punchers are at a disadvantage versus either Klitschko....you let a Klitschko lead and it's going to be a long night because they WILL land meaningful punches and counter punching is all about avoiding those punishing blows....just my view of it.

I agreed IMO ma fighter with the best chance is one that has good head movement can take shots and set a high pace...Neither Klitschko like a fast pace....

Mostly Wlad I think that would be the advantage because his stamina has always been questionable...It has improved but really how much since noone has been able to really test it by pushing him 12 rds....

Vitaly I think head movement is very important

But it is easier said then done though