Vitali Klitschko claims 'preliminary agreement' to fight David Haye

[Fenster]

Of course. Just look at the way he smashed up an even slower, less active Nikolay Valuev.

I said it's a long shot.

Vitali isn't the mountain that Valuev is. Improvement vs decline. Youth vs injury prone fossil. There's been bigger upsets. Fact.

Name 5 bigger upsets in the last 20 years?

Here's five big upsets this year!!!

Mosley-Margarito
Linares-Salgado
Ward-Kessler
Guzman-Funeka
Green-Roy

[Violent Demise]

I said it's a long shot.

Vitali isn't the mountain that Valuev is. Improvement vs decline. Youth vs injury prone fossil. There's been bigger upsets. Fact.

Name 5 bigger upsets in the last 20 years?

Here's five big upsets this year!!!

Mosley-Margarito
Linares-Salgado
Ward-Kessler
Guzman-Funeka
Green-Roy

I have a hard time calling those upsets

[Fenster]

Name 5 bigger upsets in the last 20 years?

Here's five big upsets this year!!!

Mosley-Margarito
Linares-Salgado
Ward-Kessler
Guzman-Funeka
Green-Roy

I have a hard time calling those upsets

They were all betting underdogs. Fact.

[Violent Demise]

Here's five big upsets this year!!!

Mosley-Margarito
Linares-Salgado
Ward-Kessler
Guzman-Funeka
Green-Roy

I have a hard time calling those upsets

They were all betting underdogs. Fact.

Book makers ain't exactly the most knowledgeable Boxing fans. Fact

[Fenster]

I have a hard time calling those upsets

They were all betting underdogs. Fact.

Book makers ain't exactly the most knowledgeable Boxing fans. Fact

That is one serious chump comment. Fact.

[Violent Demise]

They were all betting underdogs. Fact.

Book makers ain't exactly the most knowledgeable Boxing fans. Fact

That is one serious chump comment. Fact.

But tell me I'm wrong

[Fenster]

Book makers ain't exactly the most knowledgeable Boxing fans. Fact

That is one serious chump comment. Fact.

But tell me I'm wrong

Wrong. Bigtime wrong.

Major bookmakers not only employ experts to compile odds but also have inside info.

As Killer said, the odds are just a guide. A far better guide than someone on a forum saying "he has no chance" - anyone can say that.

So anyone that think's Haye has ZERO chance should save up all their pocket money, raid the piggybank and get stuck into that 2/5, which is obviuosly huge value

[eagle]

Here's five big upsets this year!!!

Mosley-Margarito
Linares-Salgado
Ward-Kessler
Guzman-Funeka
Green-Roy

I have a hard time calling those upsets

They were all betting underdogs. Fact.

But your were asked for 5 bigger upsets not just 5 upsets. I think Haye beating Vitali would be up there with Clay beating Liston and Douglas beating Tyson.

[eagle]

I said it's a long shot.

Vitali isn't the mountain that Valuev is. Improvement vs decline. Youth vs injury prone fossil. There's been bigger upsets. Fact.

Name 5 bigger upsets in the last 20 years?

Here's five big upsets this year!!!

Mosley-Margarito
Linares-Salgado
Ward-Kessler
Guzman-Funeka
Green-Roy

I wouldn't call any of those bigger upsets than if Haye beat Vitali, other than maybe the Linares fight. Then again Linares has never proven to be as dominant as Vitali.

[Fenster]

Name 5 bigger upsets in the last 20 years?

Here's five big upsets this year!!!

Mosley-Margarito
Linares-Salgado
Ward-Kessler
Guzman-Funeka
Green-Roy

I wouldn't call any of those bigger upsets than if Haye beat Vitali, other than maybe the Linares fight. Then again Linares has never proven to be as dominant as Vitali.

That's your personal opinion.

These are the current general odds for Haye-Vitali

Haye - 7/4
Vitali - 2/5

I'm almost certain the fights I listed the price between fav/underdog was wider.. so those underdog winners were given less chance than Haye

[eagle]

Here's five big upsets this year!!!

Mosley-Margarito
Linares-Salgado
Ward-Kessler
Guzman-Funeka
Green-Roy

I wouldn't call any of those bigger upsets than if Haye beat Vitali, other than maybe the Linares fight. Then again Linares has never proven to be as dominant as Vitali.

That's your personal opinion.

These are the current general odds for Haye-Vitali

Haye - 7/4
Vitali - 2/5

I'm almost certain the fights I listed the price between fav/underdog was wider.. so those underdog winners were given less chance than Haye

Where are those odds taken from?

[Mark TKO]

before Saturday I gave Haye NO chance of beating Vitali.But now, after seeing VK performance, just maybe he has a slight chance - 30% if i had to put a figure on it

[Fenster]

I wouldn't call any of those bigger upsets than if Haye beat Vitali, other than maybe the Linares fight. Then again Linares has never proven to be as dominant as Vitali.

That's your personal opinion.

These are the current general odds for Haye-Vitali

Haye - 7/4
Vitali - 2/5

I'm almost certain the fights I listed the price between fav/underdog was wider.. so those underdog winners were given less chance than Haye

Where are those odds taken from?

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/EN...10/Boxing.html

While you're there search the result section for the fights I listed

[eagle]

That's your personal opinion.

These are the current general odds for Haye-Vitali

Haye - 7/4
Vitali - 2/5

I'm almost certain the fights I listed the price between fav/underdog was wider.. so those underdog winners were given less chance than Haye

Where are those odds taken from?

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/EN...10/Boxing.html

While you're there search the result section for the fights I listed

A British bookmakers. Nuff said.

[Fenster]

Where are those odds taken from?

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/EN...10/Boxing.html

While you're there search the result section for the fights I listed

A British bookmakers. Nuff said.

What odds you got then?