Have you ever been subjected to Racial/ Cultural Abuse/ Discrimination?

[El Kabong]

Not just racial Lyle.

If i remember not so long ago, you were lambasting me for calling you a yank.

I mean really? Who gives a fuck












Yourself.

Oh if you're going to call me a Yankee, then I may get angry enough to work up a spit.

I am an American, we are good.....Yankees are loud, obnoxious, and lacking social couth...say what you will about Southerners and the slackjawed toothless morons Hollywood portrays us as but go to New Jersey/Philadelphia and tell me they are better.

[Nameless]

I got mocked by some americans once who didn't like that I was coming from the french part of Canada, they were accusing me of being a shithead communists and a few other strange accusations turning around that. As I kind of have a huge punk cultural background, I got called hobos, trash garbage or glue sniffer, especially in my home town because one of my friend was living close to the forbidden triangle (I.E a zone where 3 posh pubs with a huge summer terraso filled with alpha males with testosterone) and I was often insulted when I was walking by there. BEside, quite ok I would say.

[AdamGB]

Being half Scottish/Geordie and a bit better educated and rasied than 9/10 of the people I used to work with on the building sites... I wouldn't call it abuse but I was definetly made to feel different then the other lads.

I wasn't treat like an outsider, but I was treat like an outsider who was allowed inside... if that makes any sense?...

This may prove unpopular with a few of you here but I'm gonna get on my soap box anyway -

In this country you have two things going either for or against you: your skills/qualitys and your ethnic background/gender etc... the country is now full of so much positive disrimination that I am pretty certain being a white male hasn't helped me at all...

In other jobs it won't be the case, but when it's goverment/council ran gyms/the fire service etc as is my experience, then being a young, white male doesn't exactly give you a helping hand.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Being half Scottish/Geordie and a bit better educated and rasied than 9/10 of the people I used to work with on the building sites... I wouldn't call it abuse but I was definetly made to feel different then the other lads.

I wasn't treat like an outsider, but I was treat like an outsider who was allowed inside... if that makes any sense?...

This may prove unpopular with a few of you here but I'm gonna get on my soap box anyway -

In this country you have two things going either for or against you: your skills/qualitys and your ethnic background/gender etc... the country is now full of so much positive disrimination that I am pretty certain being a white male hasn't helped me at all...

In other jobs it won't be the case, but when it's goverment/council ran gyms/the fire service etc as is my experience, then being a young, white male doesn't exactly give you a helping hand.

you should work where I do. It's like Grace Brothers. Women make tea and answer phones get paid less than the men....

big difference in public/private business.

don't forget class/regional difference as well, that still has an effect.

[Gandalf]

I have been subjected to racial abuse a number of times. One christmas me and my wife decided to go to Seoul with another married couple who are friends of ours. Immediately after getting into the streets from the train station a woman walked up to me and started to abuse me for having the audacity to hold hands with a pure blooded Korean. Forget the fact that this was my wife, but apparently I was white and so was a perfect target for her ire. I got quite pissed off and grabbed her hand which was pointing into my chest a little too much for my liking. My wife and my friend pulled me back, telling me to walk away because she was obviously not worth the argument. I saw their point and let it go, but it soured my day somewhat. That's just one of my little stories, there are others though.

I have come to the conclusion that Koreans are a very insecure bunch and nothing fills them with fright more than a white male married to one of 'their' women. The racism is institutionalised here and it feeds from the politics and media through to the public who have been fed a very negative image of 'the white menace'. In no other country are white middle class university educated males held in such fear. Currently a group called the anti English spectrum has come to prominence in Korea. They cloak their agenda in saying they are about improving education and protecting the children. Pull the other one! Im the teacher with an MA in education...I care about education. These muppets are on the whole concerned with white/black foreign males who date Korean women. They even stalk English teachers and post pictures of their apartments on their website. They even went through a female teachers trash and reported on their site that they had found a used condom. These are obviously classy people. Unfortunately the ministry of justice has invited their leader to government meetings and the media has been quoting from him quite freely. The police have also given him an award for his vigilante behaviour. It's almost like the British government taking the BNP under its wing and asking them for advice! Just a few weeks ago the leader of ATEK (a small foreign teachers union out here) recieved an email from a member of Anti English spectrum threatening to kill him and throw acid into the faces of English teachers starting this christmas. Police are currently investigating.

Currently they are trying to stimatize foreigners as AIDS carrying, drug abusing, pedophiles. Of course, when the media is going along with this without verifying any facts and creating a climate of fear it makes the public somewhat uneasy. Foreign teachers are now being forced to provide incountry AIDS tests. Even the sex workers (entertainment...ahem) and the 3D workers are able to supply AIDS tests from their home countries and yet educated English teachers must do it in country. It's all about trying to stimgmatise the English teacher.

I don't have to bother with all that crap because I have permanent residency status, but for any new people wanting to come here. I would tell them not to bother. I wouldn't have come with all the extra paper work required these days, it's just not worth it.

[Spicoli]

We used to get bused into some hell hole once a week from Jr high back in Cali,Remember it being in Stockton (??) and "SM" being everywhere...Sherman Barrio ?? Needless to say 15-20 little white dudes climbing off the bus from the suburbs surrounded by cholos clad in hair nets,tanks and broken english sneers who were old enough to be their classmates uncle put the fear of fooking god in us.Not to mention the Chicks were as nasty and tough as some of the dudes.You learned to walk back to back real quick...either that or take the failing grades and ditch that place constantly.The extent of my spanish went Pinchi Gringo, Puta and vato and carry a huge brick........It lingered through parts of our regular schools.Always a separation of herd mentality and tension.We had a saying...If you fight one bean,you fight the whole damn bur......awww never mind.We came to co exist after a few scuffles.Just stayed the hell away and leave em the fook alone.Never turned tail but you get wise to conducting and carrying yourself when out numbered in a hurry.

[Kel]

English bastard, White bastard, Nazi Bastard was pretty regular when I lived in Bradford and I responded by beating the fuck out of them. I ain't lived there for 6 years though and moved away to get away from it all because I always reacted to any kind of insult with violence. Was years ago though when I was still a kid really.

Most recent was a Scottish fella that called me an 'English cunt' when I was up in Oban in Scotland (stunning place) at a friends party. I won't go into what happened but we were drinking together and having a good time about 10 minutes later and we speak on the phone a few times a year.

Anyway what's the problem Grinch?

[CutMeMick]

Yes...

But I brush it off and move on with my life.

The most reason time was when I was in Thousand Oaks pumping gas and I was in my car and 2 Caucasian (White American) men that appeared to be in their 40s we're pumping gas on the other side I had Spanish music playing loud enough for me to hear while I pumped gas and I walked inside to buy a Gatorade and walked back and as I walked back past them I heared one of them say "Even if he's well dressed and in a Mercedes he's still a wet back" I stopped turned around and said "Just think that this wet back dresses better then you and drives a better car then you" and went about my business...

[AdamGB]

English bastard, White bastard, Nazi Bastard was pretty regular when I lived in Bradford and I responded by beating the fuck out of them. I ain't lived there for 6 years though and moved away to get away from it all because I always reacted to any kind of insult with violence. Was years ago though when I was still a kid really.

Most recent was a Scottish fella that called me an 'English cunt' when I was up in Oban in Scotland (stunning place) at a friends party. I won't go into what happened but we were drinking together and having a good time about 10 minutes later and we speak on the phone a few times a year.

Anyway what's the problem Grinch?

I remember my dad being in glasgow, pretty rough pub...
this drunk glaswegian starts asking him where he's from

"Geordie eh? ay they're alright... just Scotsmen with no brains"
"you must be a geordie too then "

The bloke could of gotten pissed but luckily saw the funny side... from what I've heard people from the north east of england are pretty much the only englishmen rampant scottish nationalists will evel tolerate...

[AdamGB]

Being half Scottish/Geordie and a bit better educated and raised than 9/10 of the people I used to work with on the building sites... I wouldn't call it abuse but I was definitely made to feel different then the other lads.

I wasn't treat like an outsider, but I was treat like an outsider who was allowed inside... if that makes any sense?...

This may prove unpopular with a few of you here but I'm gonna get on my soap box anyway -

In this country you have two things going either for or against you: your skills/qualitys and your ethnic background/gender etc... the country is now full of so much positive disrimination that I am pretty certain being a white male hasn't helped me at all...

In other jobs it won't be the case, but when it's goverment/council ran gyms/the fire service etc as is my experience, then being a young, white male doesn't exactly give you a helping hand.

don't forget class/regional difference as well, that still has an effect.

That's what probably has the biggest effect on me, if we go away from apply to certain companies that have to fill certain quotas (I love how it's politically correct to segregate people... bit of a conflict of intentions going on).

My dad used to work predominantly as a plumber but he'd do anything else on the sites if it was paying. During the 80s and Thatcher-ism this wasn't easy, so we didn't have a lot of money, but we managed to find a house in a pretty nice area, it was falling to pieces, which made it cheap and we didn't have to pay for virtually any labour to do it up because obviously my dad did it all.

Living there we obviously got places in all of the local schools etc, coming up through school, I started to feel in middle school that I wasn't 'posh' enough for some people and especially in high school (which was a mix of people from loads of areas, not mostly local, like middle school was) that I was too 'posh' (despite being POOR! ) for some people (most of them dirty little Charvers anyway).

I always used to find it funny that the so called 'poor kids' (simply because they lived in worse areas) came into school with new mobile phones, went abroad all the time on holiday, got games consoles when (not 5 years after) they came out that weren't hand me downs from their uncles etc, were given money everyday to buy lunch and most likely 10 lambert and butlers and would have CD players etc (fuck me, I couldn't even afford to buy stuff to play on my tape player I got for Christmas) saw me as posh and rich etc... I never had any of that (not that I would say I was 'deprived' or anything... I was always happy... never wanted for anything)

Not that I'm really complaining, I had a good circle of friends and could get on with anybody, I just noticed that people who saw themselves as being at one end of a scale of the other never truly accepted me... I could mix with anybody though... I was just aware that a lot of people made assumptions about me based on certain things they saw at face value.

Over the 6-7 years I've been out of school now, though I've always felt happy with myself I've realised that I can't and shouldn't try to be something to everybody... they can take me or leave me for what I am.

if they don't want to accept me then fuck'em...

[johnmaff36]

Being half Scottish/Geordie and a bit better educated and raised than 9/10 of the people I used to work with on the building sites... I wouldn't call it abuse but I was definitely made to feel different then the other lads.

I wasn't treat like an outsider, but I was treat like an outsider who was allowed inside... if that makes any sense?...

This may prove unpopular with a few of you here but I'm gonna get on my soap box anyway -

In this country you have two things going either for or against you: your skills/qualitys and your ethnic background/gender etc... the country is now full of so much positive disrimination that I am pretty certain being a white male hasn't helped me at all...

In other jobs it won't be the case, but when it's goverment/council ran gyms/the fire service etc as is my experience, then being a young, white male doesn't exactly give you a helping hand.

don't forget class/regional difference as well, that still has an effect.

That's what probably has the biggest effect on me, if we go away from apply to certain companies that have to fill certain quotas (I love how it's politically correct to segregate people... bit of a conflict of intentions going on).

My dad used to work predominantly as a plumber but he'd do anything else on the sites if it was paying. During the 80s and Thatcher-ism this wasn't easy, so we didn't have a lot of money, but we managed to find a house in a pretty nice area, it was falling to pieces, which made it cheap and we didn't have to pay for virtually any labour to do it up because obviously my dad did it all.

Living there we obviously got places in all of the local schools etc, coming up through school, I started to feel in middle school that I wasn't 'posh' enough for some people and especially in high school (which was a mix of people from loads of areas, not mostly local, like middle school was) that I was too 'posh' (despite being POOR! ) for some people (most of them dirty little Charvers anyway).

I always used to find it funny that the so called 'poor kids' (simply because they lived in worse areas) came into school with new mobile phones, went abroad all the time on holiday, got games consoles when (not 5 years after) they came out that weren't hand me downs from their uncles etc, were given money everyday to buy lunch and most likely 10 lambert and butlers and would have CD players etc (fuck me, I couldn't even afford to buy stuff to play on my tape player I got for Christmas) saw me as posh and rich etc... I never had any of that (not that I would say I was 'deprived' or anything... I was always happy... never wanted for anything)

Not that I'm really complaining, I had a good circle of friends and could get on with anybody, I just noticed that people who saw themselves as being at one end of a scale of the other never truly accepted me... I could mix with anybody though... I was just aware that a lot of people made assumptions about me based on certain things they saw at face value.

Over the 6-7 years I've been out of school now, though I've always felt happy with myself I've realised that I can't and shouldn't try to be something to everybody... they can take me or leave me for what I am.

if they don't want to accept me then fuck'em...

thats the right attitude to have my friend

[ono]

Being half Scottish/Geordie and a bit better educated and rasied than 9/10 of the people I used to work with on the building sites... I wouldn't call it abuse but I was definetly made to feel different then the other lads.

I wasn't treat like an outsider, but I was treat like an outsider who was allowed inside... if that makes any sense?...

This may prove unpopular with a few of you here but I'm gonna get on my soap box anyway -

In this country you have two things going either for or against you: your skills/qualitys and your ethnic background/gender etc... the country is now full of so much positive disrimination that I am pretty certain being a white male hasn't helped me at all...

In other jobs it won't be the case, but when it's goverment/council ran gyms/the fire service etc as is my experience, then being a young, white male doesn't exactly give you a helping hand.

you should work where I do. It's like Grace Brothers. Women make tea and answer phones get paid less than the men....

big difference in public/private business.

don't forget class/regional difference as well, that still has an effect.

Do you work in 1960?

[killersheep]

I've been called spick, chink, beaner, rice monkey, wet back etc. What are you going to do? Fight for race? There is no gain for me there except maybe temporary pride, it's not as if beating their ass is going to make them less racist. I will not fight unless me or my loved ones are in danger. For those that don't know I am mixed race (hispanic/caucasian) apparently I look chinese though.

More often than not I am ostresized for my political leanings and called commie pinko and shit like that. I just laugh about that though.

[Youngblood]

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Being half Scottish/Geordie and a bit better educated and rasied than 9/10 of the people I used to work with on the building sites... I wouldn't call it abuse but I was definetly made to feel different then the other lads.

I wasn't treat like an outsider, but I was treat like an outsider who was allowed inside... if that makes any sense?...

This may prove unpopular with a few of you here but I'm gonna get on my soap box anyway -

In this country you have two things going either for or against you: your skills/qualitys and your ethnic background/gender etc... the country is now full of so much positive disrimination that I am pretty certain being a white male hasn't helped me at all...

In other jobs it won't be the case, but when it's goverment/council ran gyms/the fire service etc as is my experience, then being a young, white male doesn't exactly give you a helping hand.

you should work where I do. It's like Grace Brothers. Women make tea and answer phones get paid less than the men....

big difference in public/private business.

don't forget class/regional difference as well, that still has an effect.

Do you work in 1960?

yes. But it is true. People associate accents with sounding thick (yammers) or arrogant (cockney), scoucers are all thieves etc.