Have you ever been subjected to Racial/ Cultural Abuse/ Discrimination?

[Howlin Mad Missy]

shit heads come in all colours and nationalities.

[johnmaff36]

Was in Dublin a few years back and had an altercation with a guy from Cork who told me to 'F**k off back to where you came from' (Im irish by the way but i know it was because i was from Belfast, the North as opposed to his South). I aked him where he was from, knowing the answer but hoping he might see the irony, and then pointed out that he lived farther from dublin than i and why didnt HE f**k off where HE came from. Got a bit of a laugh from his stupidity and pure ignorance

[HattonTheHammer]

Im a white male aged between 18-49

we practically run the world

[Fenster]

I moved out of London for a year when i was about 13. All the kids ripped the piss out of my accent and for generally looking a bit poor. I used one these kids head to destroy a locker. Stopped after that.

I got called an "English cunt" in Wales. Thought it was funny.

[AdamGB]

Being half Scottish/Geordie and a bit better educated and raised than 9/10 of the people I used to work with on the building sites... I wouldn't call it abuse but I was definitely made to feel different then the other lads.

I wasn't treat like an outsider, but I was treat like an outsider who was allowed inside... if that makes any sense?...

This may prove unpopular with a few of you here but I'm gonna get on my soap box anyway -

In this country you have two things going either for or against you: your skills/qualitys and your ethnic background/gender etc... the country is now full of so much positive disrimination that I am pretty certain being a white male hasn't helped me at all...

In other jobs it won't be the case, but when it's goverment/council ran gyms/the fire service etc as is my experience, then being a young, white male doesn't exactly give you a helping hand.

don't forget class/regional difference as well, that still has an effect.

That's what probably has the biggest effect on me, if we go away from apply to certain companies that have to fill certain quotas (I love how it's politically correct to segregate people... bit of a conflict of intentions going on).

My dad used to work predominantly as a plumber but he'd do anything else on the sites if it was paying. During the 80s and Thatcher-ism this wasn't easy, so we didn't have a lot of money, but we managed to find a house in a pretty nice area, it was falling to pieces, which made it cheap and we didn't have to pay for virtually any labour to do it up because obviously my dad did it all.

Living there we obviously got places in all of the local schools etc, coming up through school, I started to feel in middle school that I wasn't 'posh' enough for some people and especially in high school (which was a mix of people from loads of areas, not mostly local, like middle school was) that I was too 'posh' (despite being POOR! ) for some people (most of them dirty little Charvers anyway).

I always used to find it funny that the so called 'poor kids' (simply because they lived in worse areas) came into school with new mobile phones, went abroad all the time on holiday, got games consoles when (not 5 years after) they came out that weren't hand me downs from their uncles etc, were given money everyday to buy lunch and most likely 10 lambert and butlers and would have CD players etc (fuck me, I couldn't even afford to buy stuff to play on my tape player I got for Christmas) saw me as posh and rich etc... I never had any of that (not that I would say I was 'deprived' or anything... I was always happy... never wanted for anything)

Not that I'm really complaining, I had a good circle of friends and could get on with anybody, I just noticed that people who saw themselves as being at one end of a scale of the other never truly accepted me... I could mix with anybody though... I was just aware that a lot of people made assumptions about me based on certain things they saw at face value.

Over the 6-7 years I've been out of school now, though I've always felt happy with myself I've realised that I can't and shouldn't try to be something to everybody... they can take me or leave me for what I am.

if they don't want to accept me then fuck'em...

[AdamGB]

English bastard, White bastard, Nazi Bastard was pretty regular when I lived in Bradford and I responded by beating the fuck out of them. I ain't lived there for 6 years though and moved away to get away from it all because I always reacted to any kind of insult with violence. Was years ago though when I was still a kid really.

Most recent was a Scottish fella that called me an 'English cunt' when I was up in Oban in Scotland (stunning place) at a friends party. I won't go into what happened but we were drinking together and having a good time about 10 minutes later and we speak on the phone a few times a year.

Anyway what's the problem Grinch?

I remember my dad being in glasgow, pretty rough pub...
this drunk glaswegian starts asking him where he's from

"Geordie eh? ay they're alright... just Scotsmen with no brains"
"you must be a geordie too then "

The bloke could of gotten pissed but luckily saw the funny side... from what I've heard people from the north east of england are pretty much the only englishmen rampant scottish nationalists will evel tolerate...

[Chino]

Not sure if it was discrimination or racism but it is somewhat related. I was in Morocco 2 months ago and the waiter took my friend's order just fine but didn't want to take mine. It was the month of Muslim fasting and told my friend I should follow Muslim faith just like anybody in Morocco. The waiter thought I was Moroccan. I don't blame him, being Mexican and that day I didn't shave, I could blend in as one of them. My friend translated what he said and holded herself from laughing so I told the waiter "No no no, yo soy Mexicano, en serio. No se preocupe" (No no no, I am Mexican, really. Don't worry). I knew he wouldn't understand me but I wanted to make it clear that I AM MEXICAN and not Moroccan. The guy apologized and took my order.

A few days later, this girl and I were just playing around as we walked near a plaza. We were just being flirty and playful and then police came up to us and asked her if everything was fine and then the guy started speaking arabic to me. Once again, I replied in Spanish (not in English, somehow, I feel english-speaking nationalities are not seen positively in muslim countries) and the guy apologized and told me he thought I was harrassing a poor turist (my friend) and just wanted to protect tourism. No problem.

Interesting how people think I am one of them when I visit Egypt or Morocco. I don't blame them. If I saw them in Mexico, I would think they were Mexican.

[johnmaff36]

Being half Scottish/Geordie and a bit better educated and raised than 9/10 of the people I used to work with on the building sites... I wouldn't call it abuse but I was definitely made to feel different then the other lads.

I wasn't treat like an outsider, but I was treat like an outsider who was allowed inside... if that makes any sense?...

This may prove unpopular with a few of you here but I'm gonna get on my soap box anyway -

In this country you have two things going either for or against you: your skills/qualitys and your ethnic background/gender etc... the country is now full of so much positive disrimination that I am pretty certain being a white male hasn't helped me at all...

In other jobs it won't be the case, but when it's goverment/council ran gyms/the fire service etc as is my experience, then being a young, white male doesn't exactly give you a helping hand.

don't forget class/regional difference as well, that still has an effect.

That's what probably has the biggest effect on me, if we go away from apply to certain companies that have to fill certain quotas (I love how it's politically correct to segregate people... bit of a conflict of intentions going on).

My dad used to work predominantly as a plumber but he'd do anything else on the sites if it was paying. During the 80s and Thatcher-ism this wasn't easy, so we didn't have a lot of money, but we managed to find a house in a pretty nice area, it was falling to pieces, which made it cheap and we didn't have to pay for virtually any labour to do it up because obviously my dad did it all.

Living there we obviously got places in all of the local schools etc, coming up through school, I started to feel in middle school that I wasn't 'posh' enough for some people and especially in high school (which was a mix of people from loads of areas, not mostly local, like middle school was) that I was too 'posh' (despite being POOR! ) for some people (most of them dirty little Charvers anyway).

I always used to find it funny that the so called 'poor kids' (simply because they lived in worse areas) came into school with new mobile phones, went abroad all the time on holiday, got games consoles when (not 5 years after) they came out that weren't hand me downs from their uncles etc, were given money everyday to buy lunch and most likely 10 lambert and butlers and would have CD players etc (fuck me, I couldn't even afford to buy stuff to play on my tape player I got for Christmas) saw me as posh and rich etc... I never had any of that (not that I would say I was 'deprived' or anything... I was always happy... never wanted for anything)

Not that I'm really complaining, I had a good circle of friends and could get on with anybody, I just noticed that people who saw themselves as being at one end of a scale of the other never truly accepted me... I could mix with anybody though... I was just aware that a lot of people made assumptions about me based on certain things they saw at face value.

Over the 6-7 years I've been out of school now, though I've always felt happy with myself I've realised that I can't and shouldn't try to be something to everybody... they can take me or leave me for what I am.

if they don't want to accept me then fuck'em...

thats the right attitude to have my friend

[ICB]

I'm steaming mad!

Iv'e just read some shit that seriously has me thinking crazy, so i need to keep things simple instead of vetting my anger in an inappropriate manor. I won't elaborate now.

Instead, i thought i'd just conduct a simple survey of sorts.

Please excuse me/ my tone but how many of you actually have experienced some kind of discrimination or abuse with regards to your colour, religion, cultural background, accent etc...?

I'm just interested to know how it made you feel? How you reacted to it?

Been called racist names at school a few times, i ignored it though. And sometimes round my area where i used to live, but you get it everywhere no matter what colour you are.

[ono]

Being half Scottish/Geordie and a bit better educated and rasied than 9/10 of the people I used to work with on the building sites... I wouldn't call it abuse but I was definetly made to feel different then the other lads.

I wasn't treat like an outsider, but I was treat like an outsider who was allowed inside... if that makes any sense?...

This may prove unpopular with a few of you here but I'm gonna get on my soap box anyway -

In this country you have two things going either for or against you: your skills/qualitys and your ethnic background/gender etc... the country is now full of so much positive disrimination that I am pretty certain being a white male hasn't helped me at all...

In other jobs it won't be the case, but when it's goverment/council ran gyms/the fire service etc as is my experience, then being a young, white male doesn't exactly give you a helping hand.

you should work where I do. It's like Grace Brothers. Women make tea and answer phones get paid less than the men....

big difference in public/private business.

don't forget class/regional difference as well, that still has an effect.

Do you work in 1960?

[killersheep]

I've been called spick, chink, beaner, rice monkey, wet back etc. What are you going to do? Fight for race? There is no gain for me there except maybe temporary pride, it's not as if beating their ass is going to make them less racist. I will not fight unless me or my loved ones are in danger. For those that don't know I am mixed race (hispanic/caucasian) apparently I look chinese though.

More often than not I am ostresized for my political leanings and called commie pinko and shit like that. I just laugh about that though.

[Youngblood]

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Being half Scottish/Geordie and a bit better educated and rasied than 9/10 of the people I used to work with on the building sites... I wouldn't call it abuse but I was definetly made to feel different then the other lads.

I wasn't treat like an outsider, but I was treat like an outsider who was allowed inside... if that makes any sense?...

This may prove unpopular with a few of you here but I'm gonna get on my soap box anyway -

In this country you have two things going either for or against you: your skills/qualitys and your ethnic background/gender etc... the country is now full of so much positive disrimination that I am pretty certain being a white male hasn't helped me at all...

In other jobs it won't be the case, but when it's goverment/council ran gyms/the fire service etc as is my experience, then being a young, white male doesn't exactly give you a helping hand.

you should work where I do. It's like Grace Brothers. Women make tea and answer phones get paid less than the men....

big difference in public/private business.

don't forget class/regional difference as well, that still has an effect.

Do you work in 1960?

yes. But it is true. People associate accents with sounding thick (yammers) or arrogant (cockney), scoucers are all thieves etc.

[JazMerkin]

Being mixed-race, I tend to get it from everybody. I've been called pretty much every racial insult pertaining to mixed-race, black, Asian & Arab people & had racial abuse for the white side of me. So I'm kind of used to it. Truthfully, most of the time people come out with stuff, it's generally because they're ignorant, e.g. use of the term 'half-caste' which is very racist, but many people think is the normal term for mixed-race people, hell I did when I was little.

I used to have no problem beating on people for racist abuse, whether they were black, asian or white, but that was mainly when I was in my teens. Nowadays I get very little of it, mainly because being a bit older & bigger, I'm not perceived as an easy target. It's more general stereotypes that piss me off, like people always asking to buy drugs off me when I'm out in a club or when I had a job interview & the interviewer kept calling me 'man' & doing weird shit with his hands, as if I was a some ghetto stereotype in a string vest with a 40 oz rather than a double graduate in a suit.

Oh & for the record Adam, being a white male isn't what's holding you back. It's no easier being a non-white male, although I'm not saying it's harder. I think it generally boils down to class & who you know. A guy I did my Masters with, who was a considerably weaker candidate than me was able to get a job straight off the course. He didn't get jobs ahead of me because he's white, he got it because he's middle-class & his dad has a production company, cue connections. My old man has a small company that takes care of sewage maintenance. Sadly won't get me a job at the BBC

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I didn't know you was mixed race jazz?

I used to hate ticking the ''Other'' box in the ethic background section on application forms. Mixed race wasn't an option till about 2001



I worry about the state of things in the U.S. Mixed Race isn't an option there to this day... I truly HATE that Barrack Obama gets called black by 95% of the world.

He probably calls himself Black
My Mother would of smacked the shit out of me (no pun intended ) for that

Halle Berry, Thierry Henry, Lewis Hamilton, Alicia Keys etc.. all mixed race, all get called black/ call them selves black... I understand the hangup but it's nonsense.

What would you rather be? A Genetic hybrid or an Genetic Inbred?