Vitali: I'm not ducking anybody!

[The Shadow]

No, I just think that I'm analyzing a certain set of criteria and making an informed assessment about it. I'm not being a pessimist, rather, I think I'm just being a realist. There's nothing ludicrous about what I said. Coming from a former Soviet Block State, where the use of P.E.D.'s is well documented isn't grasping at straws. I'm not trying to irritate anyone with this argument. Nor am I just saying it to p*** ardent supporters of both brothers off. I think they are both great for the sport. At the same time, I can't allow that to cloud my judgement calls when it comes to certain issues which seem self-evident.

No you ARE being a pessimist. Not ALL Soviets used roids or HGH and especially after the initial collapse of Communism ( fall of the Berlin Wall ) most of the heavy roid or HGH users were around in the mid to late 70's until the late 80's...Wlad has NEVER tested positive for a banned substance and competed in the 1996 Olympics, Vitali tested positive once and wasn't allowed to compete in the Olympics and this was because of an injury and he took medicine much like James Toney.

You ASSUME that just because of where they are from and their education that they juice along with the fact that Vitali has been injury prone and you take those facts and mold them into your little conspiracy theory, now do you know where Jimmy Hoffa is burried

Lyle, it appears you have problems with reading comprehension. That being said, let me help you out:
I never said that ALL soviets were using rGH or anabolic steroids. However, it is a well known fact that the government sponsored and encouraged the use of P.E.D.'s in a vast variety of sports. The prevalence in the Ukrain has already been documented by Ukranian scientists. Conspiracy theory? You sound like a child that has to come to realization that your marvel comic book hero is only the creative musings of a comic. Why would it be so disturbing to you and other forum members that the Klitschko's use P.E.D.'s?
As I've stated before, there are a variety of tests that would not pick-up some of the commonly used P.E.D.'s. They have to be banned before they can be tested for and detected. New P.E.D.'s are coming out on practically a monthly basis.
Hmmm.....I guess you would argue that Ronnie Coleman is all natural too.
Any "informed" user of P.E.D.'s would acknowledge that the proper use and administration of the drugs don't lead to nefarious long-term side-effects.
That's merely a load of trumped-up B.S. propagated by individuals who have no long-term research data to support that out-dated claim.
The Klitschkos were both products of the Ukranian sports-machine. If you like to live in the dark with your comrades and not face the reality of the situation, then that's simply your problem. I'll always air on the side of realism, thank you very much.
B.T.W.- Hoffa is swimming with da fishes!!