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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    I find it absolutely hilarious how misinformed the general public is about performance enhancing drugs and the piss poor testing for them. Take for example the recent HGH controversy. If you do some research you would find out that HGH has been used by bodybuilders as far back as the 1970's!! Yet the news media sensationalizes it as if it was this new drug that came on the scene. The drugs are WAY AHEAD of the testing. Some of the new PEDS can only be detected through a MUSCLE BIOPSY!! Not urine...not blood....muscle biopsy (you can find plenty of articles on the web from reputable sources about this). Do you think any sports body will be doing radom biopsies for drugs anytime soon? Not to mention the myriad of other designer drugs that most people have no clue about...let alone test for. Would i be shocked if i found out Pac was on PEDS...not at all. Just as i wouldn't be shocked to see other boxers on them...as well as many other famous athletes. Performance enhancers are now a reality in modern sports. We all want to believe are favorite athletes are morally good...but the current climate justifiably raises a lot of suspicions.
    What a load of crap!

    Well... Mr expert on designer drugs educate us! Not with this hearsay opinionated crap that sounds like science fiction but with reality! Provide direct links and how to get the stuff. If I were to believe any of what you write here, there has to be a huge market for the stuff, someone has to make it, distribute it and show the user how to administer it. You can't just swallow it or inject it into your muscle without it being absorbed and put into waste by the body. This kind of miracle designer drug couldn't be made in the garage and would cost millions and millions in research to develop so either a huge drug company would have to be the one developing it or a would have to be on the Government’s dime. That means Olympics (country developed) or Military use and a lot more people would be aware of it if it was present, otherwise you're just fukn day dreaming.......

    he is right, IGF supposedly cant be detected via blood test

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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    Many People are jealous what Manny Pacquiao Achieved in the sports. Just like the other boxer did. They going up to weight class to another weight class to another weigh class.

    Example of other boxers who go up from weigh class to weigh class:

    Manny Pacquiao - 106-145lbs
    Sugar Ray Robinson - 135-160 lbs
    Henry Armstrong - 120-147 lbs
    Roberto Duran - 120-170 lbs

    Don't tell me that this legends are on steroids too? If yes you dummy ! You need to see a doctor. If your really a boxing fan please do your research.

    Again people who accusing someone without the proper evidence is called crab mentality.
    Last edited by Intazzz; 12-17-2009 at 04:38 PM.

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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    i love how you put pac as going up to 145 haha, the new division for pac ..

    its not to do with the weight anyway, as stated above steroids dont have the ability to make u big if you dont train to become big.... i dont believe pacquaio is doing so, however your examples give good examples of fighters who when going up in weight have slowed down or lost a bit of power along the way, hasnt happened to pacquaio... this is what raises suspicion

    i notice you didnt put roy jones down as one of those fighters though .... oh we know that wouldnt help your argument

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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    i love how you put pac as going up to 145 haha, the new division for pac ..

    its not to do with the weight anyway, as stated above steroids dont have the ability to make u big if you dont train to become big.... i dont believe pacquaio is doing so, however your examples give good examples of fighters who when going up in weight have slowed down or lost a bit of power along the way, hasnt happened to pacquaio... this is what raises suspicion

    i notice you didnt put roy jones down as one of those fighters though .... oh we know that wouldnt help your argument

    I put 145lbs because Pacquiao never reach 147 yet on weigh in. He is not a welterweight but his natural weight is 150lbs "VERY HEALTHY". This means Pacquiao is very deadly at 150lbs because he never diet but still maintaining his body and speed at that weight. Again. Please remember that pac start his career at 106lbs at 16 yrs old and his a very very poor guy back then in a third world country. People in the philippines don't eat 3 times a day and sometimes they only eat noodles once a day just to survive for hunger. Pacquiao become rich when he fought Marco Antonio Barrera. This is the only time he can eat whatever he wants and have the proper nutrition. Even if Pacquiao body is malnourished in the past he has the power and speed back then and knocking out people older than him. His knocking out professional boxer over 21 and above even his under age.

    PHILIPPINES Hunger growing as 40 per cent of Filipinos lack of food - Asia News

    Anyway Roy Jones is a good example also. He fought from 154 "Middleweight" to 194+ lbs "World heavyweight title . Don't tell me Roy Jones using steroid too.
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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    Quote Originally Posted by Intazzz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    i love how you put pac as going up to 145 haha, the new division for pac ..

    its not to do with the weight anyway, as stated above steroids dont have the ability to make u big if you dont train to become big.... i dont believe pacquaio is doing so, however your examples give good examples of fighters who when going up in weight have slowed down or lost a bit of power along the way, hasnt happened to pacquaio... this is what raises suspicion

    i notice you didnt put roy jones down as one of those fighters though .... oh we know that wouldnt help your argument

    I put 145lbs because Pacquiao never reach 147 yet. He is not a welterweight. He is more on Lightweight or Featherweight. Again. Please remember that pac start his career at 106lbs at 16 yrs old and his a very very poor guy back then in a third world country. People in the philippines don't eat 3 times a day and sometimes they only eat noodles once a day just to survive for hunger. Pacquiao become rich when he fought Marco Antonio Barrera. This is the only time he can eat whatever he wants and have the proper nutrition.

    PHILIPPINES Hunger growing as 40 per cent of Filipinos lack of food - Asia News

    why do people constantly come out with this stat... floyd was fighting at 106 at 16, hell i was about that at 16, im 165 at 20 and still quite skinny.... my point being your weight at 16 years old means jack .. it doesnt improve his accomplishments as much as youd like it to be the case

    and your wrong... im pretty sure the dlh fight was at 147 lb... if were talking actual weigh in weights then its 144

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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Intazzz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    i love how you put pac as going up to 145 haha, the new division for pac ..

    its not to do with the weight anyway, as stated above steroids dont have the ability to make u big if you dont train to become big.... i dont believe pacquaio is doing so, however your examples give good examples of fighters who when going up in weight have slowed down or lost a bit of power along the way, hasnt happened to pacquaio... this is what raises suspicion

    i notice you didnt put roy jones down as one of those fighters though .... oh we know that wouldnt help your argument

    I put 145lbs because Pacquiao never reach 147 yet. He is not a welterweight. He is more on Lightweight or Featherweight. Again. Please remember that pac start his career at 106lbs at 16 yrs old and his a very very poor guy back then in a third world country. People in the philippines don't eat 3 times a day and sometimes they only eat noodles once a day just to survive for hunger. Pacquiao become rich when he fought Marco Antonio Barrera. This is the only time he can eat whatever he wants and have the proper nutrition.

    PHILIPPINES Hunger growing as 40 per cent of Filipinos lack of food - Asia News

    why do people constantly come out with this stat... floyd was fighting at 106 at 16, hell i was about that at 16, im 165 at 20 and still quite skinny.... my point being your weight at 16 years old means jack .. it doesnt improve his accomplishments as much as youd like it to be the case

    and your wrong... im pretty sure the dlh fight was at 147 lb... if were talking actual weigh in weights then its 144
    as a PRO BOXER? lol! Floyd never start 16 as a pro boxer. But Pacquiao did. Pacquiao is been fighting since he was a kid in amateur and start pro at 16 "advance" because he got a natural talent. I've been watching this kid back then.

    Yes your 165 lbs at 20. But let me ask you about your lifestyle? If Pacquiao can eat what ever he wants when he was 16 years old and still got his natural Talent and proper nutrition. Oh boy... Pacquiao don't exist. Maybe he is not a pro boxer or not even a boxer.
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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    Quote Originally Posted by Intazzz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Intazzz View Post


    I put 145lbs because Pacquiao never reach 147 yet. He is not a welterweight. He is more on Lightweight or Featherweight. Again. Please remember that pac start his career at 106lbs at 16 yrs old and his a very very poor guy back then in a third world country. People in the philippines don't eat 3 times a day and sometimes they only eat noodles once a day just to survive for hunger. Pacquiao become rich when he fought Marco Antonio Barrera. This is the only time he can eat whatever he wants and have the proper nutrition.

    PHILIPPINES Hunger growing as 40 per cent of Filipinos lack of food - Asia News

    why do people constantly come out with this stat... floyd was fighting at 106 at 16, hell i was about that at 16, im 165 at 20 and still quite skinny.... my point being your weight at 16 years old means jack .. it doesnt improve his accomplishments as much as youd like it to be the case

    and your wrong... im pretty sure the dlh fight was at 147 lb... if were talking actual weigh in weights then its 144
    as a PRO BOXER? lol! Floyd never start 16 as a pro boxer. But Pacquiao did. Pacquiao is been fighting since he was a kid in amateur and start pro at 16 "advance" because he got a natural talent. I've been watching this kid back then.

    no not as a pro, as an amatuer were you dont dry out to make weight, floyd would have been walking around at 106lb or near enough that, pac would have been working his way down a little bit


    and it isnt because he had more talent .... its because he needed money to feed himself as we have already stated

    you make it sound as if turning pro early is an achievment rather than a neccesity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intazzz View Post
    Anyway Roy Jones is a good example also. He fought from 154 "Middleweight" to 194+ lbs "World heavyweight title . Don't tell me Roy Jones using steroid too.
    Your taking the piss

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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Intazzz View Post
    Anyway Roy Jones is a good example also. He fought from 154 "Middleweight" to 194+ lbs "World heavyweight title . Don't tell me Roy Jones using steroid too.
    Your taking the piss
    Come on now intazzz.

    Are you a Philipino Manny fan or a normal boxing fan

    By that I mean your "knowledge" of boxing starts and ends with Pacquiao

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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    Quote Originally Posted by Intazzz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    i love how you put pac as going up to 145 haha, the new division for pac ..

    its not to do with the weight anyway, as stated above steroids dont have the ability to make u big if you dont train to become big.... i dont believe pacquaio is doing so, however your examples give good examples of fighters who when going up in weight have slowed down or lost a bit of power along the way, hasnt happened to pacquaio... this is what raises suspicion

    i notice you didnt put roy jones down as one of those fighters though .... oh we know that wouldnt help your argument

    I put 145lbs because Pacquiao never reach 147 yet on weigh in. He is not a welterweight but his natural weight is 150lbs "VERY HEALTHY". This means Pacquiao is very deadly at 150lbs because he never diet but still maintaining his body and speed at that weight. Again. Please remember that pac start his career at 106lbs at 16 yrs old and his a very very poor guy back then in a third world country. People in the philippines don't eat 3 times a day and sometimes they only eat noodles once a day just to survive for hunger. Pacquiao become rich when he fought Marco Antonio Barrera. This is the only time he can eat whatever he wants and have the proper nutrition. Even if Pacquiao body is malnourished in the past he has the power and speed back then and knocking out people older than him. His knocking out professional boxer over 21 and above even his under age.

    PHILIPPINES Hunger growing as 40 per cent of Filipinos lack of food - Asia News

    Anyway Roy Jones is a good example also. He fought from 154 "Middleweight" to 194+ lbs "World heavyweight title . Don't tell me Roy Jones using steroid too.
    oops .... i guess no body told you

    Officials ignored Jones's failed drug test| Sport | This is London

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    Default Re: Manny Pacquiao is Not on Steroids or PEDS... Plain and Very Simple

    For the Floyd and Manny groupies, both of them seriously may be on something.

    As I've stated before, Manny is under suspicion, but Floyd gets a pass. Both of them have relatively maintain their speed and both looks cut as hell with abnormally large heads now.


    But, you know what? I don't give a shit, just get the fight on.

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