James Toney to try his hand at MMA ?!

[Wadeb_21]

That's wierd I read on another site him and Tarver are in the works for a fight at HW with the winner possibily fighting Haye

[Mattyhitman]

That's wierd I read on another site him and Tarver are in the works for a fight at HW with the winner possibily fighting Haye

Chances are it probs aload of bullpoop, a chance to get his name in the media again, who knows Im afraid if he did fancy having a pop at Haye he would be delusional to think he could anything productive imo.

[GAME]

Toney is the last guy I thought would try to go into MMA. I thought he was 1 of the last remaining old skool boxers with natural talent and now he is willing to ruin his rep by getting tapped out in a round by some unknown street fighter. Shameful.

If he cant dedicate himself to getting in shape then I cant see him having the discipline to learn several new combat sports. He will need to master alot of of new things before they throw him to the wolves.

He should fight Hopkins then be done.

[nyc champ]

im more of a boxing fan then a mma but he would get demolished in the mma, reasons you gota have ground game, submission game etc toney dosent have none of that besides stand up

[hitmanhatton]

his stand up too isnt quite right for the ufc... i havent really seen anyone be succesful in mma by being slick and elusive

[ross]

Didnt he train alongside Arlovski at the wildcard?

[holmcall]

Delusional with Dementia

[Mattyhitman]

i havent really seen anyone be succesful in mma by being slick and elusive

Do ya watch much MMA bud , Ok i'll give ya just a few examples of being a slick and elusive MMA artist:-

Anderson Silva - rarely gets hit, cannot remember one fight of his when he has been cut or even slightly marked up. Pretty much dominates his opponents. Dan Henderson being his toughest match to date. UFC Middleweight Champ

BJ Penn - Did ya see his last fight against Diego Sanchez ? Not one mark on BJ's face after 25 mins of fighting, yet Sanchez looked like he got run over by a bus, which then reversed back over his face for good measure.
UFC Lightweight Champ

Lyoto Machida - Now granted his last fight, for me he got beat by Shogun Rua, but before that he had yet to lose 1 rd of MMA action in the UFC, this due to being slick and elusive.
UFC Lightheavyweight Champ



As previously mentioned boxing and MMA are vastly different diciplines and it takes a hell of a lot of dedication to do either form of combat. Im a huge fan of both and can appreciate what these guys have to do to get to the top of their respective sports. I would worry for Toney if he were to enter the Octagon, but as proved recently by Kimbo it can be done, as long as your matched to someone with relative skill set to yours. Put him in with a banger and you have an interesting fight, put him in with a BJJ expert and he's buggered.

[Nameless]

I wonder... Toney a few years ago in such tremendous condition could have done wonders and damages. NOw... I would lean on thinking that the last late bus just went away and that it's too late now.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

i havent really seen anyone be succesful in mma by being slick and elusive

Do ya watch much MMA bud , Ok i'll give ya just a few examples of being a slick and elusive MMA artist:-

Anderson Silva - rarely gets hit, cannot remember one fight of his when he has been cut or even slightly marked up. Pretty much dominates his opponents. Dan Henderson being his toughest match to date. UFC Middleweight Champ

BJ Penn - Did ya see his last fight against Diego Sanchez ? Not one mark on BJ's face after 25 mins of fighting, yet Sanchez looked like he got run over by a bus, which then reversed back over his face for good measure.
UFC Lightweight Champ

Lyoto Machida - Now granted his last fight, for me he got beat by Shogun Rua, but before that he had yet to lose 1 rd of MMA action in the UFC, this due to being slick and elusive.
UFC Lightheavyweight Champ



As previously mentioned boxing and MMA are vastly different diciplines and it takes a hell of a lot of dedication to do either form of combat. Im a huge fan of both and can appreciate what these guys have to do to get to the top of their respective sports. I would worry for Toney if he were to enter the Octagon, but as proved recently by Kimbo it can be done, as long as your matched to someone with relative skill set to yours. Put him in with a banger and you have an interesting fight, put him in with a BJJ expert and he's buggered.

Na i think i know what HMH means.
James Toney's style is completely lost in UFC where as someone with a far more traditional/upright style of say, Mikkel Kessler or Vitali Klitschko would fair better if stand-up was gonna be their thing.