RJJ V Mike Tyson

[Zilla]

Even if Jones laid on the ropes and took a body shot he would've been hurt. Mike packed too much of a punch for someone like Roy to just soak up.

[J_Undisputed]

Even if you're not buying into the weight drain arguments, you'd actually think Jones would be dumb enough to lay on the ropes for the 1st 3 rounds against one of the most devastating punchers the heavweight division has ever seen, if its been proven that he could move circle, jab and hold till Tyson gave up.

All of sudden Tyson decides to rededicate himself to training after half @ssing it ever since he got out of prison? No matter who the trainer is. The last leg of his career - minus the media circus was a farewell tour of brian nielsens, buster mathis juniors, black rhinos, bothas, mcbrides, seldons etc? I was a huge tyson fan myself and diluded myself into thinking he would be back to form for each fight. The truth is he was mess mentally and no trainer was about to or could change that.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Jones rehyrdrating and gaining back his nutrition may have suffered twice effects of the weight fluctuation, but since we're omitting that when talking about tarver and johnson's fights against Roy, I suppose it doesn't count here either. Jones physically at his best beats a Tyson mentally at his worst, in my book .

[El Kabong]

That fight could have gone either way it could have been Ali-Liston or it could have been Foster-Frazier.

RJJ wasn't a spectacular heavyweight, but at that point in time Mike Tyson wasn't any great shakes either, he had head movement from time to time but threw 1 big bomb after another and it's doubtful that he would have caught Roy with one but on the off chance he did the fight would have been over shortly thereafter

[DaxxKahn]

Even if you're not buying into the weight drain arguments, you'd actually think Jones would be dumb enough to lay on the ropes for the 1st 3 rounds against one of the most devastating punchers the heavweight division has ever seen, if its been proven that he could move circle, jab and hold till Tyson gave up.

All of sudden Tyson decides to rededicate himself to training after half @ssing it ever since he got out of prison? No matter who the trainer is. The last leg of his career - minus the media circus was a farewell tour of brian nielsens, buster mathis juniors, black rhinos, bothas, mcbrides, seldons etc? I was a huge tyson fan myself and diluded myself into thinking he would be back to form for each fight. The truth is he was mess mentally and no trainer was about to or could change that.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Jones rehyrdrating and gaining back his nutrition may have suffered twice effects of the weight fluctuation, but since we're omitting that when talking about tarver and johnson's fights against Roy, I suppose it doesn't count here either. Jones physically at his best beats a Tyson mentally at his worst, in my book .

Yes we will have to agree to disagree on this one...

I too like you and millions of others thought Tyson would at least be a shadow of himself eventually but it never happened he became too distraught emotionally....

With that being said though emotions or not you get hit you get hit and even if Roy did move he would get hit eventually within 3 rounds and like I said going on what happened in his next 2 fights after the first Tarver fight the chin would not hold in my opp...

Funny thing is Tyson and Jones share something in common...

Both became so confident in their skillset that once eroded they had no plan B to fall back on like most vetern fighters do...

Tyson believed too much in his power to think he needed to keep using his skillset that made him what he was and Jones never thought he would ever slow down

[Spicoli]

Again...?Really ? Mentally Jones blows Tyson away.But physical is beating Jones in fantasy here.Tyson not exactly slow himself,and Jones would have to stand still...for at least a couple of seconds.Really would be that simple I feel.