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    Default Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Intazzz View Post
    Why Mayweather Jr. don't agree on high penalty if he came overweight? 10 million dollar is fair.

    Very simple answer:

    Because he want's to come in 160lbs to 170 lbs at fight night to make Manny Pacquiao smaller and not to feel Manny Pacquiao punches after a lots serious drug testings. They want little Pacquiao to feel weak at the fight night. Taking to much blood on Manny Pacquiao will make him feel weak and smaller!

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    since when has mayweather came in at 160 -170 on fight night ? he was only 148 on the night of the DLH fight after weighing in at 152 !!

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    yeah 2 years ago~! How about today? How come Floyd refused to weight at fight night against Juan Manuel Marquez? If you watch the JMM vs PBF.

    Mayweather come in OVERWEIGHT against Marquez and refused to be weigh at fight night. Is he hiding something. Mayweather Jr. look big at that fight. I'm guessing his around 160 lbs.

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    WOW,HERE WE GO AGAIN.ITS ALL JUST HYPE TO GET US ALL TALKING ABOUT IT IN THE NEW YEAR.IM NOT TAKING INTEREST IN IT.THE FIGHT WILL HAPPEN IT HAS TO PERIOD!

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    he looked big in comparison to jmm who looked small, he wont be at 160 on fight night, he still himself isnt a big welterweight such as the likes of clottey and margarito who do come in at 160+

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    Oh my God! Oh my God! This fight will never happen. This is the first shiver of a tremendous earthquakes, they won't find any compromise possible.
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    Why should Pacquiao comply? This is just another Mayweather ploy to play head games...Hell if he agrees to the overweight pricing then I am sure Freddie will talk Manny into taking the test....Floyd is scared and to say different is a Floyd nut hugger....

    It is an insult to Pacquiao that he take a test for Floyds satisfaction...Yet Floyd won't agree to Manny's request? Floyd always looking to stack the deck in his favor

    The idea of Manny should just take the test to prove Floyd wrong is not a good reply...This will then become a common practice for other fighters making simular demands of opponents...

    Hell Floyd is the one who left the sport....Manny stayed and fought on but now Manny should jump at what Floyd wants? Nah...

    Yet Floyd knows he wants to come in overweight to make thing ever more in his favor....

    Why doesn't Floyd agree to have his whole body tested for feces and prove he is not one big asshole?

    Manny should nor any fighter have to take anything more then the mandatory test required by the commission or the other guy should have to succumb to the same test or at minimum one guy gives in to the others demands then vice versa

    Fair is fair

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Why should Pacquiao comply? This is just another Mayweather ploy to play head games...Hell if he agrees to the overweight pricing then I am sure Freddie will talk Manny into taking the test....Floyd is scared and to say different is a Floyd nut hugger....

    It is an insult to Pacquiao that he take a test for Floyds satisfaction...Yet Floyd won't agree to Manny's request? Floyd always looking to stack the deck in his favor

    The idea of Manny should just take the test to prove Floyd wrong is not a good reply...This will then become a common practice for other fighters making simular demands of opponents...

    Hell Floyd is the one who left the sport....Manny stayed and fought on but now Manny should jump at what Floyd wants? Nah...

    Yet Floyd knows he wants to come in overweight to make thing ever more in his favor....

    Why doesn't Floyd agree to have his whole body tested for feces and prove he is not one big asshole?

    Manny should nor any fighter have to take anything more then the mandatory test required by the commission or the other guy should have to succumb to the same test or at minimum one guy gives in to the others demands then vice versa

    Fair is fair
    Fair is fair and that is why both fighters should act as honestly as they can. Mayweather needs to make weight and Manny should provide a comprehensive drugs check. What's the problem with that?

    Boxing should be held to stringent standards. After all, this is a sport where people are getting battered. The playing field needs to be level. If that means actually meeting contract weights or providing a little blood to erase suspicion, then so be it.

    If both men are submitting to the same testing procedures, I don't percieve how there can be any problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Why should Pacquiao comply? This is just another Mayweather ploy to play head games...Hell if he agrees to the overweight pricing then I am sure Freddie will talk Manny into taking the test....Floyd is scared and to say different is a Floyd nut hugger....

    It is an insult to Pacquiao that he take a test for Floyds satisfaction...Yet Floyd won't agree to Manny's request? Floyd always looking to stack the deck in his favor

    The idea of Manny should just take the test to prove Floyd wrong is not a good reply...This will then become a common practice for other fighters making simular demands of opponents...

    Hell Floyd is the one who left the sport....Manny stayed and fought on but now Manny should jump at what Floyd wants? Nah...

    Yet Floyd knows he wants to come in overweight to make thing ever more in his favor....

    Why doesn't Floyd agree to have his whole body tested for feces and prove he is not one big asshole?

    Manny should nor any fighter have to take anything more then the mandatory test required by the commission or the other guy should have to succumb to the same test or at minimum one guy gives in to the others demands then vice versa

    Fair is fair
    Fair is fair and that is why both fighters should act as honestly as they can. Mayweather needs to make weight and Manny should provide a comprehensive drugs check. What's the problem with that?

    Boxing should be held to stringent standards. After all, this is a sport where people are getting battered. The playing field needs to be level. If that means actually meeting contract weights or providing a little blood to erase suspicion, then so be it.

    If both men are submitting to the same testing procedures, I don't percieve how there can be any problem.
    Agree 100%. This sport has so many shady things in it. Margarito with hand wraps, Mosley with balco, Floyd not honoring the weight, etc.

    They both need to comply with the weight and blood testing. It's estimated that they are both guaranteed 20 million each. That's 20 million reasons right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Why should Pacquiao comply? This is just another Mayweather ploy to play head games...Hell if he agrees to the overweight pricing then I am sure Freddie will talk Manny into taking the test....Floyd is scared and to say different is a Floyd nut hugger....

    It is an insult to Pacquiao that he take a test for Floyds satisfaction...Yet Floyd won't agree to Manny's request? Floyd always looking to stack the deck in his favor

    The idea of Manny should just take the test to prove Floyd wrong is not a good reply...This will then become a common practice for other fighters making simular demands of opponents...

    Hell Floyd is the one who left the sport....Manny stayed and fought on but now Manny should jump at what Floyd wants? Nah...

    Yet Floyd knows he wants to come in overweight to make thing ever more in his favor....

    Why doesn't Floyd agree to have his whole body tested for feces and prove he is not one big asshole?

    Manny should nor any fighter have to take anything more then the mandatory test required by the commission or the other guy should have to succumb to the same test or at minimum one guy gives in to the others demands then vice versa

    Fair is fair
    The same commission that let Margarito all but get away with loading his gloves? Mayweather gives a very fair explination why he believes they should both take further testing, and its not an unfair request. Especially given the amount of athletes who have been caught taking steroids. I don't see how this is Mayweather gaining an edge, and I doubt that Manny takes steroids.

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    One further thing I will add, is that whilst I agree that both fighters should follow the same rigorous testing procedures, let's just wait a while and see what the Pac camp response is in the next few days. He might well agree after a short period of deliberation. If not, then the accusations can fly somewhat.

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    funny how the Pacquiao fans are trying to insinuate that Mayweather is trying to weight drain the already smaller fighter lol and no Pacquiao fan should be bitching about anyone else trying to play the weight game, when Pacquiao is king for it already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Why should Pacquiao comply? This is just another Mayweather ploy to play head games...Hell if he agrees to the overweight pricing then I am sure Freddie will talk Manny into taking the test....Floyd is scared and to say different is a Floyd nut hugger....

    It is an insult to Pacquiao that he take a test for Floyds satisfaction...Yet Floyd won't agree to Manny's request? Floyd always looking to stack the deck in his favor

    The idea of Manny should just take the test to prove Floyd wrong is not a good reply...This will then become a common practice for other fighters making simular demands of opponents...

    Hell Floyd is the one who left the sport....Manny stayed and fought on but now Manny should jump at what Floyd wants? Nah...

    Yet Floyd knows he wants to come in overweight to make thing ever more in his favor....

    Why doesn't Floyd agree to have his whole body tested for feces and prove he is not one big asshole?

    Manny should nor any fighter have to take anything more then the mandatory test required by the commission or the other guy should have to succumb to the same test or at minimum one guy gives in to the others demands then vice versa

    Fair is fair
    The same commission that let Margarito all but get away with loading his gloves? Mayweather gives a very fair explination why he believes they should both take further testing, and its not an unfair request. Especially given the amount of athletes who have been caught taking steroids. I don't see how this is Mayweather gaining an edge, and I doubt that Manny takes steroids.

    I don't think he is either and considering how things have gone over the years I can somewhat understand the request but this request is coming from a guy that gives no guarentees he will make weight nor is he willing to succumb to a severe penelty for not doing so...What does that say about Floyd?

    That is why I said if one gives in then so should the other...Manny should not have to test just because Floyd wants him to, and like I said if it happens then it will open the doors for other fighters to make such demands....

    They make such test before and after fights for illegal substances.....That should be good enough anything else is a demand on the opponents behalf so if Manny gives in so should Floyd on the weight penelty..

    I do think the commissions drop the ball often considering the example you used with Margarito...I have said openly several times that it is a crime that Richardson found the substance not the official....

    As for Floyd agreeing to the test sure he will because he will be able to step in with a 20 plus pound weight advantage by not agreeing to make weight so explain to me how that is not just as much the advantage as the use of steroids? Though I condone neither......In fact that is justr as bad if not worse because he is using it as a mental advantage as well a physical one....

    Why the hell can't there ever be a fight that just goes off without this bullshit? Just train, step in the ring fight your best and the better man of the evening wins......

    I guess that fad wore off in the 70's
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Why should Pacquiao comply? This is just another Mayweather ploy to play head games...Hell if he agrees to the overweight pricing then I am sure Freddie will talk Manny into taking the test....Floyd is scared and to say different is a Floyd nut hugger....

    It is an insult to Pacquiao that he take a test for Floyds satisfaction...Yet Floyd won't agree to Manny's request? Floyd always looking to stack the deck in his favor

    The idea of Manny should just take the test to prove Floyd wrong is not a good reply...This will then become a common practice for other fighters making simular demands of opponents...

    Hell Floyd is the one who left the sport....Manny stayed and fought on but now Manny should jump at what Floyd wants? Nah...

    Yet Floyd knows he wants to come in overweight to make thing ever more in his favor....

    Why doesn't Floyd agree to have his whole body tested for feces and prove he is not one big asshole?

    Manny should nor any fighter have to take anything more then the mandatory test required by the commission or the other guy should have to succumb to the same test or at minimum one guy gives in to the others demands then vice versa

    Fair is fair
    The same commission that let Margarito all but get away with loading his gloves? Mayweather gives a very fair explination why he believes they should both take further testing, and its not an unfair request. Especially given the amount of athletes who have been caught taking steroids. I don't see how this is Mayweather gaining an edge, and I doubt that Manny takes steroids.

    I don't think he is either and considering how things have gone over the years I can somewhat understand the request but this request is coming from a guy that gives no guarentees he will make weight nor is he willing to succumb to a severe penelty for not doing so...What does that say about Floyd?

    That is why I said if one gives in then so should the other...Manny should not have to test just because Floyd wants him to, and like I said if it happens then it will open the doors for other fighters to make such demands....

    They make such test before and after fights for illegal substances.....That should be good enough anything else is a demand on the opponents behalf so if Manny gives in so should Floyd on the weight penelty..

    I do think the commissions drop the ball often considering the example you used with Margarito...I have said openly several times that it is a crime that Richardson found the substance not the official....

    As for Floyd agreeing to the test sure he will because he will be able to step in with a 20 plus pound weight advantage by not agreeing to make weight so explain to me how that is not just as much the advantage as the use of steroids? Though I condone neither......In fact that is justr as bad if not worse because he is using it as a mental advantage as well a physical one....

    Why the hell can't there ever be a fight that just goes off without this bullshit? Just train, step in the ring fight your best and the better man of the evening wins......

    I guess that fad wore off in the 70's
    How the hell woudl Mayweather enjoy a 20 pound weigh advantage? When has Mayweather ever put on even 7+ pounds between a weigh in and the fight? Not even when he was at 130 did he add that much weight from the weigh in to the fight. Mayweather has never been recorded gaining more than 3 pounds between weigh-in and the pre fight weigh-in, and that was against Baldomir. Mayweather came in at 146 with absolutely no problems against Juan Manuel Marquez, why would anyone think he wouldn't make the welterweight limit? Mayweather maybe weighed 4-6 pounds more than Marquez, but not anywhere near to 20 pounds. The only difference in their size was his height which was an inch or two.
    Last edited by Taeth; 12-23-2009 at 04:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Why doesn't Floyd agree to have his whole body tested for feces and prove he is not one big asshole?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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    Well the whole thing just is shady. Can anyone here tell me that the tiny amount of blood taken in a drug test would not be recovered in a day? I dont think it would even effect you at all, its not like theyre draining your whole body.

    Anyone who says mayweather is being a dick for asking is stupid, if theres nothing to hide then there shouldnt be a problem. I dont see a problem at all if mayweather takes the same drug test especially with the 10 mil per pound clause of the contract, pac should just humour us and take the drug test. And for the whole needle thing, the guy has tattoos so he cant be too afraid of needles.
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