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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Why doesn't Floyd agree to have his whole body tested for feces and prove he is not one big asshole?

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    Well the whole thing just is shady. Can anyone here tell me that the tiny amount of blood taken in a drug test would not be recovered in a day? I dont think it would even effect you at all, its not like theyre draining your whole body.

    Anyone who says mayweather is being a dick for asking is stupid, if theres nothing to hide then there shouldnt be a problem. I dont see a problem at all if mayweather takes the same drug test especially with the 10 mil per pound clause of the contract, pac should just humour us and take the drug test. And for the whole needle thing, the guy has tattoos so he cant be too afraid of needles.
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    Taeth I'm not sure what steroid you can take for just a month and have it out of your system by fight night. In fact, it's actually basically impossible for that to be the case, lots of steroids and growth hormones stay in your fat cells for extended periods of time. If this was a normal piss test then yeah, it would be possible that someone could test clean, maybe. But with a blood test that's probably impossible. Where there's smoke there is fire. Say what you want but there has been a definite suspicion among those about Manny. Usually guys can't move up in weight, add muscle and still continue to add speed and explosiveness. Manny could be an anomaly, or he could be on one. This is a very sneaky move releasing this as a press release, it puts the onus on Pacquiao now. If he doesn't take a blood test, how could you not be left with at least somewhat of a bad taste in your mouth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovebrucelee View Post
    Well the whole thing just is shady. Can anyone here tell me that the tiny amount of blood taken in a drug test would not be recovered in a day? I dont think it would even effect you at all, its not like theyre draining your whole body.

    Anyone who says mayweather is being a dick for asking is stupid, if theres nothing to hide then there shouldnt be a problem. I dont see a problem at all if mayweather takes the same drug test especially with the 10 mil per pound clause of the contract, pac should just humour us and take the drug test. And for the whole needle thing, the guy has tattoos so he cant be too afraid of needles.

    I agree with everything you just said

    Manny has already dropped a bollock by not just complaining but flat out refusing, thats like acusing someone you of being a peado and wanting your pc tested for filth, your going to jump at the chance to prove them wrong, if you refuse your going to look very suspicious, even guilty, Manny has really gone and dug himself a little hole.

    I think he may be using something and reckon there could be talk going round from people who have seen and heard things for well known boxers and trainers to start opening their mouths about the subject over the past few months.

    All Manny has to do is take the tests and prove them wrong, if he loses badly then that could have happened either way, what would be interesting is if he was taking something and has to bite the bullet and stay clean for 3 months, whether he comes in very light because he hasnt been able to maintain his mass whithout the extra help

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Mayweather NEEDS to sign a penalty contract in the case of making the weight as the Marquez fight showed he cannot be trusted.

    Manny Pac NEEDS to adhere to all drug testing procedures. It's the right thing to do and a simple "I don't like blood tests" simply does not suffice as an acceptable excuse.
    Good Post. I agree. Nothing wrong with drug tests.

    Why is Mayweather requiring as a condition of the fight taking place that Pacquiao submit to drug tests when he did not require Marquez to take drug tests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Mayweather NEEDS to sign a penalty contract in the case of making the weight as the Marquez fight showed he cannot be trusted.

    Manny Pac NEEDS to adhere to all drug testing procedures. It's the right thing to do and a simple "I don't like blood tests" simply does not suffice as an acceptable excuse.
    Good Post. I agree. Nothing wrong with drug tests.

    Why is Mayweather requiring as a condition of the fight taking place that Pacquiao submit to drug tests when he did not require Marquez to take drug tests?
    That's an interesting question. Maybe because it's Pac that has been going up the weights blowing people away with such ease and Mayweather wants to make sure there are no issues at play. Marquez looked to be up to his limits at 135, but it was his sheer will that got him through. Pac has been blowing through opponents like the wind through leaves. It is impressive, but it leaves you thinking "how does he keep on going up and doing it ever more impressively?". I understand Mayweather wanting to get Pac checked out, and if Manny has nothing to hide, then you would think he would have no issues complying. It's for a mammoth payday and the extra effort involved is really quite minimal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Mayweather NEEDS to sign a penalty contract in the case of making the weight as the Marquez fight showed he cannot be trusted.

    Manny Pac NEEDS to adhere to all drug testing procedures. It's the right thing to do and a simple "I don't like blood tests" simply does not suffice as an acceptable excuse.
    Good Post. I agree. Nothing wrong with drug tests.

    Why is Mayweather requiring as a condition of the fight taking place that Pacquiao submit to drug tests when he did not require Marquez to take drug tests?
    That's an interesting question. Maybe because it's Pac that has been going up the weights blowing people away with such ease and Mayweather wants to make sure there are no issues at play. Marquez looked to be up to his limits at 135, but it was his sheer will that got him through. Pac has been blowing through opponents like the wind through leaves. It is impressive, but it leaves you thinking "how does he keep on going up and doing it ever more impressively?". I understand Mayweather wanting to get Pac checked out, and if Manny has nothing to hide, then you would think he would have no issues complying. It's for a mammoth payday and the extra effort involved is really quite minimal.
    there wasnt suspicion for the reasons youve listed such as marquez maybe not looking his best at 135 never mind 147, main for me is though.... nacho has never had a fighter test positive for performance enhancers... roach has!

    also marquez didnt have anyone that we know of in his team with links to the balco scandal..... pacquaio does!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post

    Good Post. I agree. Nothing wrong with drug tests.

    Why is Mayweather requiring as a condition of the fight taking place that Pacquiao submit to drug tests when he did not require Marquez to take drug tests?
    That's an interesting question. Maybe because it's Pac that has been going up the weights blowing people away with such ease and Mayweather wants to make sure there are no issues at play. Marquez looked to be up to his limits at 135, but it was his sheer will that got him through. Pac has been blowing through opponents like the wind through leaves. It is impressive, but it leaves you thinking "how does he keep on going up and doing it ever more impressively?". I understand Mayweather wanting to get Pac checked out, and if Manny has nothing to hide, then you would think he would have no issues complying. It's for a mammoth payday and the extra effort involved is really quite minimal.
    there wasnt suspicion for the reasons youve listed such as marquez maybe not looking his best at 135 never mind 147, main for me is though.... nacho has never had a fighter test positive for performance enhancers... roach has!

    also marquez didnt have anyone that we know of in his team with links to the balco scandal..... pacquaio does!
    Yeah, the reasons given were more my own than anything Mayweather might have actually been thinking. Your reasons sound like something a lot more worrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post

    That's an interesting question. Maybe because it's Pac that has been going up the weights blowing people away with such ease and Mayweather wants to make sure there are no issues at play. Marquez looked to be up to his limits at 135, but it was his sheer will that got him through. Pac has been blowing through opponents like the wind through leaves. It is impressive, but it leaves you thinking "how does he keep on going up and doing it ever more impressively?". I understand Mayweather wanting to get Pac checked out, and if Manny has nothing to hide, then you would think he would have no issues complying. It's for a mammoth payday and the extra effort involved is really quite minimal.
    there wasnt suspicion for the reasons youve listed such as marquez maybe not looking his best at 135 never mind 147, main for me is though.... nacho has never had a fighter test positive for performance enhancers... roach has!

    also marquez didnt have anyone that we know of in his team with links to the balco scandal..... pacquaio does!
    Yeah, the reasons given were more my own than anything Mayweather might have actually been thinking. Your reasons sound like something a lot more worrying.
    in what way, that its more condeming or sounds absurd ?

    im not sure whether to go along the no smoke without fire line or innocent till proven guilty...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post

    there wasnt suspicion for the reasons youve listed such as marquez maybe not looking his best at 135 never mind 147, main for me is though.... nacho has never had a fighter test positive for performance enhancers... roach has!

    also marquez didnt have anyone that we know of in his team with links to the balco scandal..... pacquaio does!
    Yeah, the reasons given were more my own than anything Mayweather might have actually been thinking. Your reasons sound like something a lot more worrying.
    in what way, that its more condeming or sounds absurd ?

    im not sure whether to go along the no smoke without fire line or innocent till proven guilty...
    I had no knowledge of anyone in the Pac team with links to the balco scandal so it sounds more condemning, but I really hadn't thought about it from your angle. If what you say is true then it sounds less than absurd and makes me more suspicious.

    I know what you mean, I don't want to put any blame out when there really isn't any hard evidence and the Pac team is notorious for it's pre-fight shenanigans, but this carry on seems a bit much. None of the other negotiation problems spilled over to this extent. It was even on BBC world saying that the fight is off. Some serious shit has gone down here.

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