Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...

[Rantcatrat]

Mayweather NEEDS to sign a penalty contract in the case of making the weight as the Marquez fight showed he cannot be trusted.

Manny Pac NEEDS to adhere to all drug testing procedures. It's the right thing to do and a simple "I don't like blood tests" simply does not suffice as an acceptable excuse.

Good Post. I agree. Nothing wrong with drug tests.

Why is Mayweather requiring as a condition of the fight taking place that Pacquiao submit to drug tests when he did not require Marquez to take drug tests?

[Gandalf]

Mayweather NEEDS to sign a penalty contract in the case of making the weight as the Marquez fight showed he cannot be trusted.

Manny Pac NEEDS to adhere to all drug testing procedures. It's the right thing to do and a simple "I don't like blood tests" simply does not suffice as an acceptable excuse.

Good Post. I agree. Nothing wrong with drug tests.

Why is Mayweather requiring as a condition of the fight taking place that Pacquiao submit to drug tests when he did not require Marquez to take drug tests?

That's an interesting question. Maybe because it's Pac that has been going up the weights blowing people away with such ease and Mayweather wants to make sure there are no issues at play. Marquez looked to be up to his limits at 135, but it was his sheer will that got him through. Pac has been blowing through opponents like the wind through leaves. It is impressive, but it leaves you thinking "how does he keep on going up and doing it ever more impressively?". I understand Mayweather wanting to get Pac checked out, and if Manny has nothing to hide, then you would think he would have no issues complying. It's for a mammoth payday and the extra effort involved is really quite minimal.

[hitmanhatton]

Mayweather NEEDS to sign a penalty contract in the case of making the weight as the Marquez fight showed he cannot be trusted.

Manny Pac NEEDS to adhere to all drug testing procedures. It's the right thing to do and a simple "I don't like blood tests" simply does not suffice as an acceptable excuse.

Good Post. I agree. Nothing wrong with drug tests.

Why is Mayweather requiring as a condition of the fight taking place that Pacquiao submit to drug tests when he did not require Marquez to take drug tests?

That's an interesting question. Maybe because it's Pac that has been going up the weights blowing people away with such ease and Mayweather wants to make sure there are no issues at play. Marquez looked to be up to his limits at 135, but it was his sheer will that got him through. Pac has been blowing through opponents like the wind through leaves. It is impressive, but it leaves you thinking "how does he keep on going up and doing it ever more impressively?". I understand Mayweather wanting to get Pac checked out, and if Manny has nothing to hide, then you would think he would have no issues complying. It's for a mammoth payday and the extra effort involved is really quite minimal.

there wasnt suspicion for the reasons youve listed such as marquez maybe not looking his best at 135 never mind 147, main for me is though.... nacho has never had a fighter test positive for performance enhancers... roach has!

also marquez didnt have anyone that we know of in his team with links to the balco scandal..... pacquaio does!

[Gandalf]

Good Post. I agree. Nothing wrong with drug tests.

Why is Mayweather requiring as a condition of the fight taking place that Pacquiao submit to drug tests when he did not require Marquez to take drug tests?

That's an interesting question. Maybe because it's Pac that has been going up the weights blowing people away with such ease and Mayweather wants to make sure there are no issues at play. Marquez looked to be up to his limits at 135, but it was his sheer will that got him through. Pac has been blowing through opponents like the wind through leaves. It is impressive, but it leaves you thinking "how does he keep on going up and doing it ever more impressively?". I understand Mayweather wanting to get Pac checked out, and if Manny has nothing to hide, then you would think he would have no issues complying. It's for a mammoth payday and the extra effort involved is really quite minimal.

there wasnt suspicion for the reasons youve listed such as marquez maybe not looking his best at 135 never mind 147, main for me is though.... nacho has never had a fighter test positive for performance enhancers... roach has!

also marquez didnt have anyone that we know of in his team with links to the balco scandal..... pacquaio does!

Yeah, the reasons given were more my own than anything Mayweather might have actually been thinking. Your reasons sound like something a lot more worrying.

[hitmanhatton]

That's an interesting question. Maybe because it's Pac that has been going up the weights blowing people away with such ease and Mayweather wants to make sure there are no issues at play. Marquez looked to be up to his limits at 135, but it was his sheer will that got him through. Pac has been blowing through opponents like the wind through leaves. It is impressive, but it leaves you thinking "how does he keep on going up and doing it ever more impressively?". I understand Mayweather wanting to get Pac checked out, and if Manny has nothing to hide, then you would think he would have no issues complying. It's for a mammoth payday and the extra effort involved is really quite minimal.

there wasnt suspicion for the reasons youve listed such as marquez maybe not looking his best at 135 never mind 147, main for me is though.... nacho has never had a fighter test positive for performance enhancers... roach has!

also marquez didnt have anyone that we know of in his team with links to the balco scandal..... pacquaio does!

Yeah, the reasons given were more my own than anything Mayweather might have actually been thinking. Your reasons sound like something a lot more worrying.

in what way, that its more condeming or sounds absurd ?

im not sure whether to go along the no smoke without fire line or innocent till proven guilty...

[Gandalf]

there wasnt suspicion for the reasons youve listed such as marquez maybe not looking his best at 135 never mind 147, main for me is though.... nacho has never had a fighter test positive for performance enhancers... roach has!

also marquez didnt have anyone that we know of in his team with links to the balco scandal..... pacquaio does!

Yeah, the reasons given were more my own than anything Mayweather might have actually been thinking. Your reasons sound like something a lot more worrying.

in what way, that its more condeming or sounds absurd ?

im not sure whether to go along the no smoke without fire line or innocent till proven guilty...

I had no knowledge of anyone in the Pac team with links to the balco scandal so it sounds more condemning, but I really hadn't thought about it from your angle. If what you say is true then it sounds less than absurd and makes me more suspicious.

I know what you mean, I don't want to put any blame out when there really isn't any hard evidence and the Pac team is notorious for it's pre-fight shenanigans, but this carry on seems a bit much. None of the other negotiation problems spilled over to this extent. It was even on BBC world saying that the fight is off. Some serious shit has gone down here.

[hitmanhatton]

Yeah, the reasons given were more my own than anything Mayweather might have actually been thinking. Your reasons sound like something a lot more worrying.

in what way, that its more condeming or sounds absurd ?

im not sure whether to go along the no smoke without fire line or innocent till proven guilty...

I had no knowledge of anyone in the Pac team with links to the balco scandal so it sounds more condemning, but I really hadn't thought about it from your angle. If what you say is true then it sounds less than absurd and makes me more suspicious.

I know what you mean, I don't want to put any blame out when there really isn't any hard evidence and the Pac team is notorious for it's pre-fight shenanigans, but this carry on seems a bit much. None of the other negotiation problems spilled over to this extent. It was even on BBC world saying that the fight is off. Some serious shit has gone down here.

there are also roaches links with the likes of stallonre and micky rourke, both users... althought i think there is less in that than some people make out

ill get the info bout the balco link when i finish work and pm you a couple of the atrticles i have read..