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    Default Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...

    To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of their training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of their training or right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of their training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of their training or right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously?
    Floyd himself will be subjected to the exact same testing, so what's the problem?

    Is it that ridiculous that professional athletes should have to take a full drug screen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of their training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of their training or right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously?
    im pretty sure floyd be subject to the same tests so this is no excuse

    plus most other sports have these random tests... why shouldnt boxing
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    Default Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of their training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of their training or right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously?
    im pretty sure floyd be subject to the same tests so this is no excuse
    I agree with your sentiments and those of KS above. There is nothing ludicrous about wanting an opponent checked out thoroughly. This is a sport where brains get bashed about, it is far more serious than other sports. If a full check is wanted then it must be adhered to. If both men are doing it then neither is placed at a disadvantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of their training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of their training or right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously?
    im pretty sure floyd be subject to the same tests so this is no excuse
    I agree with your sentiments and those of KS above. There is nothing ludicrous about wanting an opponent checked out thoroughly. This is a sport where brains get bashed about, it is far more serious than other sports. If a full check is wanted then it must be adhered to. If both men are doing it then neither is placed at a disadvantage.

    I understand what you are saying Miles, but how can this be the first fight in the history of the sport to be subjected to this type of testing... Are we now saying the current drug screening is not suitable and we now have to take blood tests in the middle of your training and the night of the fight? If that is done for this fight, why not every single professional fight in the world Are they any less important
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    So what if Floyd is subjected to the same test.. Everyone doesn't react the same... In addition to that, it was his idea which says to me, he isn't effected at all by blood tests.

    This is all a psychological game "money" is playing and I really don't think Floyd believes even a juiced up manny could beat him... Floyd is trying to be bigger then the sport, it is not his responsibility to have his opponent drug tested above and beyond what the sport has been doing for years... In addition to that why wait until all the contracts were good to go and everything that actually related to the rules of the fight were agreed upon to make such a rediculous request?

    This is so stupid..
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    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    So what if Floyd is subjected to the same test.. Everyone doesn't react the same... In addition to that, it was his idea which says to me, he isn't effected at all by blood tests.

    This is all a psychological game "money" is playing and I really don't think Floyd believes even a juiced up manny could beat him... Floyd is trying to be bigger then the sport, it is not his responsibility to have his opponent drug tested above and beyond what the sport has been doing for years... In addition to that why wait until all the contracts were good to go and everything that actually related to the rules of the fight were agreed upon to make such a rediculous request?

    This is so stupid..
    You cannot be reasoned with.

    We are going to be denied the defining fight of our generation because PAC won't take a drug test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    So what if Floyd is subjected to the same test.. Everyone doesn't react the same... In addition to that, it was his idea which says to me, he isn't effected at all by blood tests.

    This is all a psychological game "money" is playing and I really don't think Floyd believes even a juiced up manny could beat him... Floyd is trying to be bigger then the sport, it is not his responsibility to have his opponent drug tested above and beyond what the sport has been doing for years... In addition to that why wait until all the contracts were good to go and everything that actually related to the rules of the fight were agreed upon to make such a rediculous request?

    This is so stupid..
    You cannot be reasoned with.

    We are going to be denied the defining fight of our generation because PAC won't take a drug test.
    By anyone not being convince on their position does not mean they can't be reasoned with.. There is a level of agreeing to disagree... I could say the same about anyone feeling this type of testing is acceptible, but yet it has never been done before...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    So what if Floyd is subjected to the same test.. Everyone doesn't react the same... In addition to that, it was his idea which says to me, he isn't effected at all by blood tests.

    This is all a psychological game "money" is playing and I really don't think Floyd believes even a juiced up manny could beat him... Floyd is trying to be bigger then the sport, it is not his responsibility to have his opponent drug tested above and beyond what the sport has been doing for years... In addition to that why wait until all the contracts were good to go and everything that actually related to the rules of the fight were agreed upon to make such a rediculous request?

    This is so stupid..
    You cannot be reasoned with.

    We are going to be denied the defining fight of our generation because PAC won't take a drug test.
    By anyone not being convince on their position does not mean they can't be reasoned with.. There is a level of agreeing to disagree... I could say the same about anyone feeling this type of testing is acceptible, but yet it has never been done before...

    it has just in the vast majority of other sports, this isnt revoloutionary, merely boxing is behind the times and needs to catch up

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    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    So what if Floyd is subjected to the same test.. Everyone doesn't react the same... In addition to that, it was his idea which says to me, he isn't effected at all by blood tests.

    This is all a psychological game "money" is playing and I really don't think Floyd believes even a juiced up manny could beat him... Floyd is trying to be bigger then the sport, it is not his responsibility to have his opponent drug tested above and beyond what the sport has been doing for years... In addition to that why wait until all the contracts were good to go and everything that actually related to the rules of the fight were agreed upon to make such a rediculous request?

    This is so stupid..
    You cannot be reasoned with.

    We are going to be denied the defining fight of our generation because PAC won't take a drug test.
    By anyone not being convince on their position does not mean they can't be reasoned with.. There is a level of agreeing to disagree... I could say the same about anyone feeling this type of testing is acceptible, but yet it has never been done before...
    It's done in the Olympics. And it should be done for title fights as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post

    You cannot be reasoned with.

    We are going to be denied the defining fight of our generation because PAC won't take a drug test.
    By anyone not being convince on their position does not mean they can't be reasoned with.. There is a level of agreeing to disagree... I could say the same about anyone feeling this type of testing is acceptible, but yet it has never been done before...
    It's done in the Olympics. And it should be done for title fights as well.

    I'm talking only about Boxing, nothing else...

    How are Title fights any different then a regular professional fights DON"T SAY MONEY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    So what if Floyd is subjected to the same test.. Everyone doesn't react the same... In addition to that, it was his idea which says to me, he isn't effected at all by blood tests.

    This is all a psychological game "money" is playing and I really don't think Floyd believes even a juiced up manny could beat him... Floyd is trying to be bigger then the sport, it is not his responsibility to have his opponent drug tested above and beyond what the sport has been doing for years... In addition to that why wait until all the contracts were good to go and everything that actually related to the rules of the fight were agreed upon to make such a rediculous request?

    This is so stupid..
    first of all how does floyd know that pac is even affected by a test... how do you ?

    and it is his responsibility to prevent damage to himself and his career if he is fighting a 'potential' drugs cheat

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    So what if Floyd is subjected to the same test.. Everyone doesn't react the same... In addition to that, it was his idea which says to me, he isn't effected at all by blood tests.

    This is all a psychological game "money" is playing and I really don't think Floyd believes even a juiced up manny could beat him... Floyd is trying to be bigger then the sport, it is not his responsibility to have his opponent drug tested above and beyond what the sport has been doing for years... In addition to that why wait until all the contracts were good to go and everything that actually related to the rules of the fight were agreed upon to make such a rediculous request?

    This is so stupid..
    first of all how does floyd know that pac is even affected by a test... how do you ?

    and it is his responsibility to prevent damage to himself and his career if he is fighting a 'potential' drugs cheat

    I only know for myself, and i also trust PAC knows for himself...


    If the tables were turned and PAC accused "Money" of being juiced and requested this type of testing, and then Floyed said No because he believes it would effect his performance. There would be Pac Fans saying he is scared and Floyd fans saying what i have been saying...

    I just don't think any fighter has the right to control the drug screening process...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    So what if Floyd is subjected to the same test.. Everyone doesn't react the same... In addition to that, it was his idea which says to me, he isn't effected at all by blood tests.

    This is all a psychological game "money" is playing and I really don't think Floyd believes even a juiced up manny could beat him... Floyd is trying to be bigger then the sport, it is not his responsibility to have his opponent drug tested above and beyond what the sport has been doing for years... In addition to that why wait until all the contracts were good to go and everything that actually related to the rules of the fight were agreed upon to make such a rediculous request?

    This is so stupid..
    first of all how does floyd know that pac is even affected by a test... how do you ?

    and it is his responsibility to prevent damage to himself and his career if he is fighting a 'potential' drugs cheat

    I only know for myself, and i also trust PAC knows for himself...


    If the tables were turned and PAC accused "Money" of being juiced and requested this type of testing, and then Floyed said No because he believes it would effect his performance. There would be Pac Fans saying he is scared and Floyd fans saying what i have been saying...

    I just don't think any fighter has the right to control the drug screening process...
    Absolutely disagree with this, if the tables were turned EVERYONE on this site would jump on Mayweather's case. There is not one person here that would defend Floyd avoiding a drug screen.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao-Mayweather in jeopardy...

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cnote111 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post

    first of all how does floyd know that pac is even affected by a test... how do you ?

    and it is his responsibility to prevent damage to himself and his career if he is fighting a 'potential' drugs cheat

    I only know for myself, and i also trust PAC knows for himself...


    If the tables were turned and PAC accused "Money" of being juiced and requested this type of testing, and then Floyed said No because he believes it would effect his performance. There would be Pac Fans saying he is scared and Floyd fans saying what i have been saying...

    I just don't think any fighter has the right to control the drug screening process...
    Absolutely disagree with this, if the tables were turned EVERYONE on this site would jump on Mayweather's case. There is not one person here that would defend Floyd avoiding a drug screen.
    Floyd has a lot of critics, me included. The key here is that Floyd is not the one refusing, so there is no point reversing the argument. Floyd has allowed the fight to go ahead, it is Manny stalling on the isue of a few nicks of blood.

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