Should Manny Pac go ahead with the blood test?

[cnote111]

While drugs are illegal in sport of course there should be stringent testing (either that or legalise it and save all the hassle), but expecting Pac to undergo more stringent tests than the rest of the sport where the only evidence against him is slanderlous hearsay started by his next opponents dad is a bit much IMO.

10 million dollars per pound overweight is also a bit much.

@Bomp - Spot on!

@Killer - We have seen how much Floyd uses his weight to create an advantage - This Roid crap is a complete fabrication... Do you honestly believe if Floyd never had a history of coming in over weight to create an advantage that the penalty would be so high... We saw JMM pay the price... To bad JMM didn't make a weight stipulation maybe he would've had a better result (not a win but a better result of being a bit more fair)...

Just like Cotto was known for using low blows to create an advantage - Roach had to cover his bases...

Everything that applies to "crazy" stipulations have had cause...

THERE IS NO CAUSE FOR ALL THE ROID ACCUSATIONS!!

[killersheep]

While drugs are illegal in sport of course there should be stringent testing (either that or legalise it and save all the hassle), but expecting Pac to undergo more stringent tests than the rest of the sport where the only evidence against him is slanderlous hearsay started by his next opponents dad is a bit much IMO.

10 million dollars per pound overweight is also a bit much.

@Bomp - Spot on!

@Killer - We have seen how much Floyd uses his weight to create an advantage - This Roid crap is a complete fabrication... Do you honestly believe if Floyd never had a history of coming in over weight to create an advantage that the penalty would be so high... We saw JMM pay the price... To bad JMM didn't make a weight stipulation maybe he would've had a better result (not a win but a better result of being a bit more fair)...

Just like Cotto was known for using low blows to create an advantage - Roach had to cover his bases...

Everything that applies to "crazy" stipulations have had cause...

THERE IS NO CAUSE FOR ALL THE ROID ACCUSATIONS!!

The easiest way to prove that would be to take the drug screen.

[cnote111]

10 million dollars per pound overweight is also a bit much.

@Bomp - Spot on!

@Killer - We have seen how much Floyd uses his weight to create an advantage - This Roid crap is a complete fabrication... Do you honestly believe if Floyd never had a history of coming in over weight to create an advantage that the penalty would be so high... We saw JMM pay the price... To bad JMM didn't make a weight stipulation maybe he would've had a better result (not a win but a better result of being a bit more fair)...

Just like Cotto was known for using low blows to create an advantage - Roach had to cover his bases...

Everything that applies to "crazy" stipulations have had cause...

THERE IS NO CAUSE FOR ALL THE ROID ACCUSATIONS!!

The easiest way to prove that would be to take the drug screen.

Agreed - However, why should he just because Floyd says so Why haven't any of the sanctioning bodies or the commission that oversees PED use come up with this??

If my wife came up to me and said "i know your cheating on me and i want you to take this lie detector test". I know for a fact i'm not, and if i said "why would you say that"? And she has zero basis for the accusation i wouldn't take the test...However, if she said she had this proof and that proof, i would take the test to prove my innocence..> But if anyone accuses me of anything without any real evidence.. They can kiss my ass!

[killersheep]

@Bomp - Spot on!

@Killer - We have seen how much Floyd uses his weight to create an advantage - This Roid crap is a complete fabrication... Do you honestly believe if Floyd never had a history of coming in over weight to create an advantage that the penalty would be so high... We saw JMM pay the price... To bad JMM didn't make a weight stipulation maybe he would've had a better result (not a win but a better result of being a bit more fair)...

Just like Cotto was known for using low blows to create an advantage - Roach had to cover his bases...

Everything that applies to "crazy" stipulations have had cause...

THERE IS NO CAUSE FOR ALL THE ROID ACCUSATIONS!!

The easiest way to prove that would be to take the drug screen.

Agreed - However, why should he just because Floyd says so Why haven't any of the sanctioning bodies or the commission that oversees PED use come up with this??

If my wife came up to me and said "i know your cheating on me and i want you to take this lie detector test". I know for a fact i'm not, and if i said "why would you say that"? And she has zero basis for the accusation i wouldn't take the test...However, if she said she had this proof and that proof, i would take the test to prove my innocence..> But if anyone accuses me of anything without any real evidence.. They can kiss my ass!

The sanctioning bodies do nothing to my knowledge at this time. Local commissions strictly do pee tests which are insufficient to current designer drugs.

[cnote111]

The easiest way to prove that would be to take the drug screen.

Agreed - However, why should he just because Floyd says so Why haven't any of the sanctioning bodies or the commission that oversees PED use come up with this??

If my wife came up to me and said "i know your cheating on me and i want you to take this lie detector test". I know for a fact i'm not, and if i said "why would you say that"? And she has zero basis for the accusation i wouldn't take the test...However, if she said she had this proof and that proof, i would take the test to prove my innocence..> But if anyone accuses me of anything without any real evidence.. They can kiss my ass!

The sanctioning bodies do nothing to my knowledge at this time. Local commissions strictly do pee tests which are insufficient to current designer drugs.

So wouldn't it be there responsibility to overhaul the system, not a fighter who is just trying to make waves and has no real reason to accuse Pac...

I still go back to my "wife" scenario - If someone accuses you without any evidence at all, would you subdue yourself to all their wishes to prove something you already know as being rediculous... However, with real proof behind it, i would be proud to prove my innocense..

[Beanflicker]

@Bomp - Spot on!

@Killer - We have seen how much Floyd uses his weight to create an advantage - This Roid crap is a complete fabrication... Do you honestly believe if Floyd never had a history of coming in over weight to create an advantage that the penalty would be so high... We saw JMM pay the price... To bad JMM didn't make a weight stipulation maybe he would've had a better result (not a win but a better result of being a bit more fair)...

Just like Cotto was known for using low blows to create an advantage - Roach had to cover his bases...

Everything that applies to "crazy" stipulations have had cause...

THERE IS NO CAUSE FOR ALL THE ROID ACCUSATIONS!!

The easiest way to prove that would be to take the drug screen.

Agreed - However, why should he just because Floyd says so Why haven't any of the sanctioning bodies or the commission that oversees PED use come up with this??

If my wife came up to me and said "i know your cheating on me and i want you to take this lie detector test". I know for a fact i'm not, and if i said "why would you say that"? And she has zero basis for the accusation i wouldn't take the test...However, if she said she had this proof and that proof, i would take the test to prove my innocence..> But if anyone accuses me of anything without any real evidence.. They can kiss my ass!

Yeah but this is less a "I think you're guilty so you have to take a test to prove me wrong" kinad thing than it is a "lets both take a test so there will be no doubts" kind of thing. Reasonable request from Floyd, given all the demands Pac has made, and this being that big a deal for him is incredibly fishy./